Slumber burning wood - not a good idea !

grahamc2003

welda wrote: »

I had word with our gas assessors about folks burning stuff on a gas fire, these two guys are old hands, been in the gas game for years, never in their puff have they heard, or witnessed ANYONE abusing a gas in the way you state above.

On a different note, a couple of my posts are missing, anyone care to tell me why, they were neither rude or abusive, maybe it was Stalin??

:beer:

Yeah, just seen one or two of mine from today have gone from this thread, plus a couple yesterday, one of which I thought was quite funny. No explanation at all - A very sad development on many levels.

rustyboy21

welda wrote: »

I had word with our gas assessors about folks burning stuff on a gas fire, these two guys are old hands, been in the gas game for years, never in their puff have they heard, or witnessed ANYONE abusing a gas in the way you state above.

On a different note, a couple of my posts are missing, anyone care to tell me why, they were neither rude or abusive, maybe it was Stalin??

:beer:

Told to me by Baxi/ Valor engineer on callout to a gas appliance in Blackpool....

'' Attended a ''Beauty Parlour '' in Blackpool. Had a Class 1 Hotbox fire fitted. Wasn't working. On Stripping fire down, found chewing gum like matter all over burner. Asked owner what they have been throwing on fire, said Condoms after They have been used !''

Myself, Number of times been out with engineer to see about faulty fires. Have found Cigarette butts in bottom of fire, sponge melted and clogged up jets. Plastic yoghurt carton also melted over ceramics in another incident

Don't say that I am a Liar. I have seen and Heard about it. I have been selling fires for over 25 years, sold more than you have had hot dinners.

welda

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Told to me by Baxi/ Valor engineer on callout to a gas appliance in Blackpool....

'' Attended a ''Beauty Parlour '' in Blackpool. Had a Class 1 Hotbox fire fitted. Wasn't working. On Stripping fire down, found chewing gum like matter all over burner. Asked owner what they have been throwing on fire, said Condoms after They have been used !''

Myself, Number of times been out with engineer to see about faulty fires. Have found Cigarette butts in bottom of fire, sponge melted and clogged up jets. Plastic yoghurt carton also melted over ceramics in another incident

Don't say that I am a Liar. I have seen and Heard about it. I have been selling fires for over 25 years, sold more than you have had hot dinners.

Like I said, I spoke with two guys who assess 200 + per annum gas engineers to maintain their gas safe certs. As you can imagine, any bizarre mal-practice stories will be discussed (chit-chat) during course duration.

I have read some dangerous stories in official trade magazines, nothing like what you claim, that said though, I'm sure there are incidents of stuff being melted in or around a fire purely being an accident?

"Don't say that I am a Liar", I didn't.

I'm sure you have sold more fires than I have had hot dinners, when I was on the tools, I was too busy manufacturing components that made a difference to our countries GDP, I would not have had time to flog fires, I don't think flogging anything, let alone fires would inspire me either!!

:beer:

Leif

grahamc2003 wrote: »

Yeah, just seen one or two of mine from today have gone from this thread, plus a couple yesterday, one of which I thought was quite funny. No explanation at all - A very sad development on many levels.

Agreed. Some of mine have gone. And they included some observations on issues such as Hetas, which I think is worth discussing. To simply remove posts is pretty sad. And yes one of yours was humorous, and quite harmless.

A._Badger

I've seen complaints about vanishing posts on other forums and always assumed someone had written something potentially actionable. Apparently, that's not the only reason for removing comments. It's disturbing.

alleycat`

seems like a couple of my posts were removed as well.
wonder what mystical forces in the background we upset.

muckybutt

I go away for a few days and my thread has been decimated.....mse police upto no good :rotfl:

muckybutt

grahamc2003 wrote: »

Pallets make excellent kindling imv. In fact, I've seen installation videos where the first thing the installers burn to show the stove is working is the pallet the stove was delivered on! (Nice dry wood, can hardly fail to light).

You can always apply a bit of common sense to what you read on the net - afterall, for each website saying don't burn pallets, there's probably an equal number saying it's ok too (or even sensible to). Anyhow - I burn all sorts on my stove - all my waste paper/cardboard/books/cotton wool with the dog's eye gunk on it/ any type of tree wood/chicken bones etc. My stove hasn't exploded yet, I never (well, rarely) get dirty glass, never had a chimney fire and my kids haven't been gassed by co yet. I'd say all those things are completely sensible to burn relative to the basic errors of low temperature partial burning of seasoned wood, or burning unseasoned wood, or trying to burn overnight all of which I'd say are orders of magnitude more detrimental to the stove and chimney. I wouldn't burn paint/petrol or anything which, imo, could potentialy harm me, the stove or chimney when burnt in a hot stove.

I can probably say from experience, that with you burning all that stuff on your fire you will have had a chimney fire you just wont have known about it.

It is surprising how many chimney fires I come across that the occupier doesnt know they have had.

There are basicall two types of chimney fire, the one that flashes over which by all accounts make a very loud roaring noise, then theres the low lying smouldering away ones.

muckybutt

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Hi Mucky

You going?, when I work out the day I am attending ( dependant on staffing, one off on hols) I'll message you, be good to meet up with a fellow MSE'er, if you feel like.

It just winds me up that so many posters do not take any notice of what they should burn, as per manufactures instructions, then complain when things go wrong and blame the appliance. No Wonder there are so many chimney fires each year. Have the same with gas fires, people burning rubbish on them and wondering why the fire has packed up, when they have blocked the burners up and decimated a few months old fire.

No one reads instructions these days !:mad:

You aint wrong rusy, folks seem to think a stove is an incinerator....however having said that I use our stove to get rid of chicken bones ! before the dog or cat gets them.

You have to think that when you have a stove and liner fitted the flue diameter is drastically reduced say from an 18" normal chimney to 6" flue, yes it speeds up the air flow of the flue gasses but the moment you start burning carp on it the liner is going to clog up very quickly, think of it like eating a very fatty diet and your arteries and heart getting clogged up with fat. Eat carp and you'll stop working ....same goes for stoves ! open fires and you'll have a chimney fire.

Yes i'm off to Harrogate on the Monday, looking forward to it and exploring the renewable logs and that side of things.

Williwoodburner

Muckybutt,

A bit of debate going on Arbtalk about chimney fires -
http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/firewood-forum/43204-have-you-ever-had-chimmney-fire.html

Thought you may find it interesting. :beer:

Regards

Willie.