Slumber burning wood - not a good idea !

Leif

Williwoodburner wrote: »

I guess just as from a car exhaust there are numerous nasty gasses within the smoke from a woodburner, just dont go putting your head down the chimney when the fire is lit :rotfl:.

I guess no one is going to burn loads of fence posts or pallets (recon you would need a couple of hundred to get through a winter), but the odd post/pallet/scrap wood, cant see a problem with.

Re Mr Badgers willow, yes it makes very good firewood but is very wet when green so takes a bit of seasoning.

:beer:

Willie.

I think pallets and scrap wood are fine, it's just the weather treated wood that is bad, and I would not take the risk without knowing details of the amounts of toxins in them. And don't some people put the ash on their garden, compost heap and veg patch?

rustyboy21

Williwoodburner wrote: »

Rustyboy, as above you dont have a stove so I wonder what is the purpose of commenting on these threads ?

With respect to others on this forum, sweeps and stove installers are running a business and have to make money, other stove enthusiasts as you call them are trying to heat their homes and save a bit of cash.

After all it is moneysavingexpert. :money:

re your comments as below -

It was mainly posted to highlight the amount of uninteligent posters on here, who think it is perectly ok, to be burning pallets,kitchen units,hedgerows etc , who put their own lives in danger, as well as anyone stupid enough to take their words on doing it.

Nothing wrong with burning waste wood and pallets, almost any wood is ok as long as dry/properly seasoned, also we burn quite a bit of hawthorn/blackthorn removed when laying hedges, it is in my opinion some of the very best firewood.

The only stuff to avoid is anything covered in thick paint or chipboard etc...which has lots of glue in it.

Regards

Willie.

OI post on here at times to give an alternative viewpoint.

Yes I d not have a stove, but have been in the heating business for over 25 years, running a succesful fireplace showroom, so although I do not have a stove, do not really sell them, due to the obliteration of the stove sector by the internet boys, I am fairly au fait with the workings and pitfalls of owning and running a stove.

Yes this site is for money saving, however it is not there for dangerous cost cutting, which a number of frequent irresponsible stove owners seem to do on here. With over 10000 chimney fires in the UK last year, perhaps if stove owners actually thought about the potential death trap they have in their homes and started using the correct fuel, getting their chimneys swept and doing regular maintenance to their stove and flue, then maybe the number of fires may be reduced.

Manufacturers spend £1000's on getting their products passed by the regulators for use. If they state in their installer/user guides not to use certain wood/fuels, then who are you, or anyone else, to give misinformed, sometimes dangerous information, to other 'newer' posters on here. What you burn is up to you, telling or sometimes bragging about what you burn is totally irresponsible, if it is not a suitable and recognised fuel and should be classed by the board guides, the same way as discussions over medical matters, i.e the posts should be removed.

Certain regular posters on these threads insist that their views are always right and any other view is rubbish and wrong ( some have posted on this thread already). I come on here to try and give an alternative viewpoint. However, there seems to be a little clique going on here, it is not a private members club, it is open to all and everyone has the right to post. I will carry on posting on here, if I see stupid,reckless and downright dangerous recommedations of what to burn,who to fit, how to avoid safety issues etc, so I will see you around then;)

Finally, when you have posted a LOT more posts, then I would look at taking your criticism of my posts, with any kind of recognition. Who died and made you the stove master/mistress?

Williwoodburner

No sorry, no naked pictures.

Rustyboy, I see your recent rants at other people are because you have an axe to grind because as you said in your earlier post -

Yes I d not have a stove, but have been in the heating business for over 25 years, running a succesful fireplace showroom, so although I do not have a stove, do not really sell them, due to the obliteration of the stove sector by the internet boys, I am fairly au fait with the workings and pitfalls of owning and running a stove.

You have tried and failed in the stove buisiness :mad: and dont actually like people SAVING MONEY, this comes as no surprise and can I suggest before you enter into a business, know your subject.

As for your earlier derisory comments about stove enthusiasts giving advice, in my eyes enthusiasts are the type of people who restore old cars and fix up steam engines, the Fred Dibnah's of this world, and are by their enthusiasm experts in their chosen subject.
Just because you sell something it doesn't make you an expert, i'm sure we have all been into a shop and the person behind the counter knows very little about the product they are selling.
But as you say, this is a free forum for anyone to view or make comment and people will read it and make up their own mind what is good advice.

Trying to take this back to Muckybutt's original subject, slumber burning wood is never a good idea, as Muckybutt so kindly illustrated -

1) It can be dangerous as prolonged slow burning can block your flue.
2) You wont get much heat as you wont get secondary burn of gasses.
3) You will black up your stove window.

I suggest any new stove user watch the following video, the Harmony stove one, halfway down the page.
Particularly the bit about overnight burn (if you want to achieve this) and the top ten tips at the end.
http://www.wendronstoves.com/static/faq/how-to-light-a-fire/

Best wishes :money:

Willie.

muckybutt

Good link there willie :T

Excellent advice from the video, and in the top 10 things not to do at the end.....DONT SLUMBER BURN :T let it die down naturally.

welda

rustyboy21 wrote: »

perhaps if stove owners actually thought about the potential death trap they have in their homes and started using the correct fuel, getting their chimneys swept and doing regular maintenance to their stove and flue, then maybe the number of fires may be reduced

I do all of what you state above, does this mean I can give myself a pat on the back??

Gloomendoom

Williwoodburner wrote: »

It was mainly posted to highlight the amount of uninteligent posters on here, who think it is perectly ok, to be burning pallets,kitchen units,hedgerows etc , who put their own lives in danger, as well as anyone stupid enough to take their words on doing it.

That would be me. I burnt a trailer tent in my dining room stove.

Williwoodburner

Gloomendoom wrote: »

That would be me. I burnt a trailer tent in my dining room stove.

Gloomendoom, hope you realise that wasnt my post, I quoted it from Rustyboys post to highlight a point.

regards

Willie.

Leif

rustyboy21 wrote: »

You can have a Gold star Welda as well as a free block of Seasoned wood, if you do all that I stated.;)

It is the ones who advocate burning products that can cause yourself, your house,your neighbours house and the environment damage that should be sat in the corner with a very large Dunce's hat on. Perhaps Willie and Badger could give me their hat sizes so I can organise it for them.:D

Much as I hate to defend them, I suspect they do not burn chipboard and MDF, and they season wood before burning it, although they might burn one or two inadvisable materials such as tannalised wood, although I will let them speak for themselves.

welda

Leif wrote: »

Much as I hate to defend them, I suspect they do not burn chipboard and MDF, and they season wood before burning it, although they might burn one or two inadvisable materials such as tannalised wood, although I will let them speak for themselves.

Are old ice lolly sticks safe to burn??

:beer:

rustyboy21

welda wrote: »

Are old ice lolly sticks safe to burn??

:beer:

They are as long as you leave them to season for 2 years and there is no hint of chocolate or aspartame on them !:p