Inconsiderate Caravaners

societys_child

Inconsiderate [STRIKE]Caravaners[/STRIKE] Renault Scenic drivers.

Stuck behind one yesterday. Clear road, nothing in front of him, managed almost 30 mph on de-restricted section of road, dropped to 25mph when we entered 40mph restriction.

This obviously proves that all Scenic drivers are inconsiderate . . .

Strider590

Of course they're not inconsiderate, this would imply that they don't consider the people behind them......
But I find when they get to a straight bit of road, they make an effort to drive much faster.

poppasmurf_bewdley

I'm a caravanner, and I don't hold other traffic up if at all possible.

I often find that problems are caused by the car BEHIND the caravan is frequently AFRAID of overtaking at all and thereby causes a tailback.

You frequently see these days queues behind not just caravans but other cars, vans, etc. caused by drivers who evidently have not the faintest intention of overtaking no matter how safe it is to do so.

I would also add that every year I have to overtake other slow moving cars whilst towing MY caravan.

alastairq

Car drivers should assist motorcyclists by doing this and pulling in to the left to let them pass on country roads, how many of you do?

I do not!

For the following reasons.

the Highway Code is quite explicit on this matter.....

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Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

I hilite the important [part...maintain a steady course.

That means, road position.

Several reasons....mainly, that to move to one's left immediately removes that very important 'safety area' for you to move into, should something go wrong when another vehicle overtakes. [to the extent that, on my very first PSV test with London Transport [1972!], I acquired a 'serious fault' for doing just that...moving left prior to being overtaken!]

Such a move also 'invites' the other vehicle to not move out far enough to the right when overtaking...thus by moving left, you put yourselves into a potential sandwich.

Looking at the 'invite' part further, such a move to the left might encourage a biker to actually overtake between you and any oncoming traffic....effectively forming three lines of traffic on a single carriageway.Not a good thing?



However, do as you all wish.

s_b

A point that seems to be missed here is a lot of you posters talking about overtaking are in your comfort zone and know your local roads well a case in point is the B1249 a road i know well, however it also has lots of side turnings that could catch out a driver not familiar with the road and for this reason i would be one of those not willing to overtake to have the inscription reading on my grave saying he made a mistake,unfortunately im also one of those that does leave a gap between myself and the slow vehicle in front and find it gets filled up by half wit vectra drivers and any other tat and company bm drivers that havent got a clue also but must get one car in front and cause me to brake as they dart in front of my space

so theres no answer because these people know best

alastairq

Your answer shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how to drive well: drivers should make "good progress". Driving at well below the posted limit for no reason is not good progress, and presents a danger to other users - not just inconvenience. If the caravan driver cannot reach near limit speeds on normal gradients, then the car / caravan set is underpowered - and therefore another danger.

The danger with that view is that it is a single perspective.

Your idea of 'progress' may not be mine, or anybody else's.

Your idea of the safest and best speed for a given situation may not be mine, or anybody else's.

You cannot, and do not see what other drivers may see. [and vice versa, of course].

Neither do you have the same levels of driver skills as others..

Everybody is different in that respect....and tolerance should be displayed to that effect.

Regarding the issues of whether a vehicle is 'underpowered' for a task or not?

As long as the vehicle concerned is towing, within the stated manufacturers' limits, and in accordance with the driver's licence, then it is legal.

As for presenting a danger?

Unless the vehicle is in a 'dangerous condition' then no danger can be presented...by that vehicle.

Any perceived 'danger' arises from the inability of other drivers to cope with that vehicle.


And the ability to cope with other road users is a fundamental part of everyone's driving test.


Therefore, if a driver has difficulties dealing with another vehicle, it is that driver who needs to look to their skills, and rectify any shortcomings......

The problem with the Public Highway is, that rarely does one get things one's own way.

Mrs_Arcanum

societys_child wrote: »

Inconsiderate [STRIKE]Caravaners[/STRIKE] Renault Scenic drivers.

Stuck behind one yesterday. Clear road, nothing in front of him, managed almost 30 mph on de-restricted section of road, dropped to 25mph when we entered 40mph restriction.

This obviously proves that all Scenic drivers are inconsiderate . . .

And I bet they slowed down still further for oncoming vehicles.

im-lost

Mankysteve wrote: »

Its in the highway code though.

There's many things in the highway code, which the majority
of drivers don't practice..

Lum

James_N wrote: »

It's normal to pull over - and in Wales I am happy to report that farmers, do do this if their route is more than field to field, lorries too.

Except for the foreign-registered ones as those guys just take the shorter-distance single track mountain road their satnav told them to, and instead of pulling over they just wedge their between two houses! :mad:

Notmyrealname

Lum wrote: »

Once the queue reaches a certain length then this is no longer true. There are very few roads in this country that are suitable for overtaking a mile-long queue of people who are driving nose-tail behind a slow vehicle.

TBH that tells me more about your ability to overtake than anything.

In fact in my entire driving career I've only managed to do this once.

I've managed it on an almost daily basis for several years on and off driving to work in Howden at teatime during March to September.