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Automatic driving licence

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  • TrickyWicky
    TrickyWicky Posts: 4,025 Forumite
    lol @ s b, very funny (You're gonna take a hell of a hit for that later!)
  • mealone
    mealone Posts: 527 Forumite
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    My SIL is a wheelchair user and as such she drives with push/pull hand control, these and an auto box means she has independance.

    She is extremly intelligent (a member of MENSA) and she is certainly not lazy.
  • pendulum
    pendulum Posts: 2,302 Forumite
    I used to get a lot of stick for telling people on a learner driver forum I used to go to that an automatic licence was a waste of time and not a proper licence.
    Those auto learners / licence holders used to get quite offended
    No doubt they're regretting not getting a manual licence now just like you are
  • waynedance
    waynedance Posts: 673 Forumite
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    mealone wrote: »
    My SIL is a wheelchair user and as such she drives with push/pull hand control, these and an auto box means she has independance.

    She is extremly intelligent (a member of MENSA) and she is certainly not lazy.

    So she is disabled, no one said she was lazy.

    I think SB is saying that persons with no disabilities who take only an auto test are lazy, I personally can not see the point.

    I had an auto once for a year and sold it as I missed changing gear.
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  • barbiedoll
    barbiedoll Posts: 5,328 Forumite
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    I was always rather embarrassed because I couldn't drive, especially as most of my friends had been driving for years. So I bit the bullet, took some lessons and passed my test last year.

    I was quite surprised when I found out that 4 of my friends, and my sister-in-law, have only ever been able to drive an automatic. So the fact that I have a full manual licence is making me feel slightly smug. :)

    I'd say that s b is spot on!
    "I may be many things but not being indiscreet isn't one of them"
  • thelawnet
    thelawnet Posts: 2,584 Forumite
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    fivetide wrote: »
    No idea who rattled your cage, perhaps lawnet isn't capable of actually responding properly.

    Do try to tell someone like Tanni-Gray Thompson that she is 'incapable' of anything.

    I'm sure she'd prefer it if you spelled her name properly.

    I'm not entirely sure who she is, although I've heard of and have an idea she's some sort of disabled athlete, but I'm sure there are things she's incapable of doing.

    Personally speaking I'm incapable of bowling a cricket ball, of drawing a picture that doesn't look like it was made by a four-year-old, and of many other things. On the other hand there are things I do better than average, and some things I can do that few people can do.
    Workign with disabled people I would say there are thigns they are unable to do or might have difficulty with but i would not call someone incapable.

    Who did? You're trying to say that saying 'x is incapable of riding a bicycle' is equivalent to 'x lacks any capacity at all'.

    Which is clearly ridiculous.

    You've obviously done your diversity training, I haven't, does that make me incapable of relating to disabled people? No of course not. I'm actually just cooking a meal for my Grandma, age 99, as she is now incapable of cooking herself. I don't recall her asking me to mince my words - minced beef yes, minced words, no.
    Dictionary definition for you.

    noun 4. a thoroughly incompetent person, especially one of defective mentality.

    Hope that clears it up for you

    You know sometimes words have two meanings?

    In fact this one clearly has at least four!

    But clearly the one you have chosen is WRONG.

    Do you know what a noun is?

    What is the noun in this sentence:
    "You are incapable of learning manual."?

    Just so we're clear, let's paste the full definition:

    incapable
    adjective 1.not capable.

    2. not having the necessary ability, qualification, or strength to perform some specified act or function: As an administrator, he is simply incapable.

    3.without ordinary capability; incompetent.


    noun 4. a thoroughly incompetent person, especially one of defective mentality.


    Idiom 5. incapable of, a. not having the ability, qualification, or strength for (a specified act or function).

    b.not open to; not susceptible to or admitting: These materials are incapable of exact measurement.

    c.legally unqualified for.




    Clearly the correct definition is 5, idiom 'incapable of'., and not 4, noun.

    If it was a noun, the sentence would read something like this:

    'If you cannot drive a manual car, you are an incapable.'

    Who actually uses incapable as a noun? No-one I know.

    The actual definition as I used it: 'not having the ability, qualification, or strength for (a specified act or function).'

    Which is entirely correct and an apt choice of words.

    You might as well tell me that 'Rumsfeld "Deserted His Post" On Morning Of 9/11' means that he turned the Secretary of Defense in to a barren sandy area as what you said.
  • If someone invented the car today it would be automatic and no-one would ever bother to invent a manual gearbox.
  • fivetide
    fivetide Posts: 3,811 Forumite
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    thelawnet wrote: »
    A lot of things to justify being wrong.

    Yes, I know what a noun is, that's why you used the wrong word. What you wanted was an adjective... say unable (like I said) which qualifies the noun. Not my fault you've used a word that can quite reasonably be taken the wrong way.

    Just to show how wrong you are, here's a video of someone with no legs riding a bicycle.

    http://youtu.be/788ukFHG0rw

    Please tell him how he is 'incapable'.

    Some more 'incapable' people for you.

    http://youtu.be/15fvno0NJy4

    These people are an inspirartion and your language use is demeaning to what they are achieving in the face of adversity. They are all ten times the person you could ever hope to be.

    In summary:

    "You won't like me when I'm angry.

    "Because I always back up my rage with facts and documented sources."

    The Credible Hulk.
    What if there was no such thing as a rhetorical question?
  • Joe_Horner
    Joe_Horner Posts: 4,895 Forumite
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    thelawnet wrote: »
    You might as well tell me that 'Rumsfeld "Deserted His Post" On Morning Of 9/11' means that he turned the Secretary of Defense in to [STRIKE]a barren sandy area[/STRIKE] an area with an average annual precipitation less than it's evaporative annual moisture loss as what you said.

    Seeing as we're being pedantic, not all deserts are sandy :p

    As for "incompetent" in this context, you're right that it's technically accurate but the word does have FAR more potential to cause offence than others that could have been used.

    Calling Lenny Henry "coloured" is technically accurate - none of us are colour-free so the description's true - but you wouldn't win any awards for diplomacy ;)
  • thelawnet
    thelawnet Posts: 2,584 Forumite
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    Joe_Horner wrote: »
    Seeing as we're being pedantic, not all deserts are sandy :p

    As for "incompetent" in this context, you're right that it's technically accurate but the word does have FAR more potential to cause offence than others that could have been used.

    Clearly you are "incapable" of reading the thread.
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