Driving without a cat convertor

Paradigm

mose wrote: »

Hi, My work van has had it's cat convertor stolen twice now

Starting to be a big problem round here, there's lots of precious metals in them there Cats & lots of dodgy metal merchants who buy them....

mikey72

Jakg wrote: »

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this?

Despite the rumours, the "new" MOT regulations allow you to fail a car when doing the full emissions test if it's missing a cat where manufacturer fitted - but diesels don't get the full emissions test, they just get a visible smoke test, where theres no such reason for rejection.

My car (diesel) passed it's MOT this week with no cat fitted.

Wouldn't pass if the tailpipe wasn't connected to the engine anymore though.

Delivery_Driver

I don't know all the necessary laws for it but if the police give you a notice to fix something and you don't then that vehicle cannot be used on the road.
There are also sneaky asbo laws that have been twisted to work against motorists, as you are in their opinion being a noise nuisance and if you don't get it fixed they can confiscate the vehicle.
If you have several vans in your company you may have an operators licence, which can be lost if legislation is blatantly ignored.

andygb

s_b wrote: »

are you on something?
read post no1
it sounds like a tank
its had the exhaust cut
is it really too much to ask that you digest all the information

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
It is difficult at times, trying to explain to people when they refuse to read the relevant parts of the post.
I am trying to imagine the vehicle:

Exhaust downpipe(s)

Noticeable gap

Remainder of exhaust system leading to boxes and tailpipes

I wonder if you could bridge the gap with rolled up cardboard, kitchen foil and "gum gum" to hold it all in place:D
This sounds like a prime candidate for a "plod pull" and then looks of disbelief.
I would think that it is a bit unhealthy with all the fumes exiting where they are as well.

custardy

Delivery_Driver wrote: »

I don't know all the necessary laws for it but if the police give you a notice to fix something and you don't then that vehicle cannot be used on the road.
There are also sneaky asbo laws that have been twisted to work against motorists, as you are in their opinion being a noise nuisance and if you don't get it fixed they can confiscate the vehicle.
If you have several vans in your company you may have an operators licence, which can be lost if legislation is blatantly ignored.

have you ever run/driven a vehicle that is venting from the downpipe?
opinion doessnt come into it
it is a noise nuisance

forgotmyname

Jakg wrote: »

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this?

Despite the rumours, the "new" MOT regulations allow you to fail a car when doing the full emissions test if it's missing a cat where manufacturer fitted - but diesels don't get the full emissions test, they just get a visible smoke test, where theres no such reason for rejection.

My car (diesel) passed it's MOT this week with no cat fitted.

Exactly as i said, Diesels wont fail with no CAT yet...

Wont be long before diesel emissions are checked i reckon.

Have to wait and see what future changes they make. They have lots of idea's on items them want to fail your car on. But dont have the knowhow of howto implement them.

Fail chipped cars or remapped cars. Exactly how will they tell if your cars been remapped?

Joe_Horner

Diesels will (or should ) now fail the MOT without a CAT.

Section 7.1 Exhaust System has been amended in the latest revision to include a new RFR (reason for rejection):

7.1.3 A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s07000101.htm

Section 7.1 is about general condition of the exhaust and applies to ALL vehicles. It's completely separate from the emissions requirements which are section 7.3(spark ignition) and 7.4 (compression ignition)

Note that this was included in the last manual revision but VOSA, in their infinite wisdom, issued an instruction that it should be passed and advised until 1st April 2012 to give people a chance to comply.

Rover_Driver

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Diesels will (or should ) now fail the MOT without a CAT.

Section 7.1 Exhaust System has been amended in the latest revision to include a new RFR (reason for rejection):



http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s07000101.htm

Section 7.1 is about general condition of the exhaust and applies to ALL vehicles. It's completely separate from the emissions requirements which are section 7.3(spark ignition) and 7.4 (compression ignition)

Section 7.1.3 only applies to vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions test. As diesels don't, a missing cat would not be a reason for rejection under that section.

Delivery_Driver

custardy wrote: »

have you ever run/driven a vehicle that is venting from the downpipe?
opinion doessnt come into it
it is a noise nuisance

Yes I have.The point I was making is that the asbo laws can also be used against motorists, not just chavs spitting outside your garden gate.

Jakg

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Note that this was included in the last manual revision but VOSA, in their infinite wisdom, issued an instruction that it should be passed and advised until 1st April 2012 to give people a chance to comply.

Again - last week I passed my MOT with a decat, no advisories...