Speed Camera Vans

mikey72

Radar you can pick up, laser is much more specific.

Lum

Radar you can pick up, laser is, as has been stated above, usually a signal telling you that you have been pinged and will have a ticket in the post shortly.

There are however, a couple of useful caveats.

1) It's sometimes possible to pick up scatter from the car in front being pinged.

2) Often the procedure for using a hand held laser gun will have the operator take multiple readings, and both need to confirm speeding, this is to avoid accusations of inaccuracy due to the operator holding the gun wrong.

So basically, unless you slam on the brakes as soon as the laser goes off, most of the time you're already being done by the time you get the warning.


As for the jammers, that's dangerous territory. Yes they exist but the police will investigate a car that frequently triggers an error message on their laser guns. Typically they'll turn up at 6AM and demand your car keys so they can search or seize it on suspicion of perverting the cause of justice.

Some of the jammers out there are marketed as a non-infringing device, such as a garage door opener, that just happens to use the same frequency as the police laser guns. This is still dangerous grounds. You could argue in court that this is just a garage door opener, and you might get away with it... but not if you don't own a garage!

The only real safe way to use a jammer would be once you've been pinged, immediately go home and remove it, and don't use it again for six months or so, rendering the whole thing pointless.

For the record, I don't own, and have never owned, a laser or radar jammer, and would not recommend anyone do so because, regardless of my opinion on speed enforcement practices, defeating them in this way is perverting the course of justice.

jaydeeuk1

Anyone know which forces use the new speed cameras that can zap you from a mile away?

Lum

Do you know the make/model of this camera?

Edwardia

OH got caught on a dual carriageway in Greater London poking out of unmarked van parked in inside lane with hazard lights on ! OH's fault for speeding but that does seem sneaky.

Have a Google - there is a website that specialises in helping people contest speeding fines, the police do have to follow certain rules.

sarahg1969

Lum wrote: »

It's case law. Though in trying to find it, it looks like there has since been another case (Gidden vs Chief Constable of Humberside).

There was no case law before Gidden. Magistrates used to regularly convict based on the fact that the NIP was posted in time, despite it not actually arriving in time. This is why Mr Gidden took it all the way - to establish a precedent.

If anyone does have a problem where a NIP arrives out of time, then Mr Gidden is always happy to help on pepipoo.

tumbletots

When you say 14 days is that 14 days or 14 working days. Husband thinks he was caught on Easter Sunday from a bridge over a dual carriageway. Thanks for any info.

Strider590

Lum wrote: »

So basically, unless you slam on the brakes as soon as the laser goes off, most of the time you're already being done by the time you get the warning.

From what I can gather, the LTI 20-20 (most common laser speed detector), once triggered, takes 3 readings 100ms apart.... Giving the driver only 300ms in which to react and slow down.

In practice it's more than 300ms, because the guy manning the device has to see you, aim and then ping you.
If your doing less than 65 mph in a 50 zone, see a talivan scamera and react within half a second, theres a good chance you'll avoid an opportunity to pay stealth tax.

Me personally I like to avoid the possibility altogether and take narrow country lanes where I can do 60mph, instead of being stuck at 50mph on a straight/wide dual carriageway.

alastairq

you'll avoid an opportunity to pay stealth tax.

exceeding the Speed Limit is hardly being stealthy...................?

[Deleted User]

This Thursday it will be 2 weeks. Still nothing in the post.