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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Decado23 wrote: »
    I seem to recall you arguing in the past that it wasn't really cashback, just a discount off the UW bill.

    The money credited as a result of spending with the risky prepayment card (at just selected retailers) isn't a discount as in the normal definition of "discount".

    Isn't it a payment into the account?
  • Decado23
    Decado23 Posts: 255 Forumite
    jimexbox wrote: »
    Had any irate UW customer angry that they have been shamefully ignored in the £100 discount promotion? Or are you just keeping quiet, less knowledge is power and all that?


    heh, most reasonable people wouldn't see this as any worse than the new customer deals and switching cashback available elsewhere (do you consider those shamefull as well?). Of course it would be nice to offer the deal to all UW customers but that's not possible under the circumstances.


    UW Distributor
    “Things that I felt absolutely sure of but a few years ago, I do not believe now. This thought makes me see more clearly how foolish it would be to expect all men to agree with me.” - Jim Rohn
  • Decado23
    Decado23 Posts: 255 Forumite
    edited 6 October 2009 at 12:23PM
    Quentin wrote: »
    The money credited as a result of spending with low risk prepayment card (at a wide range of popular retailers) isn't a discount as in the normal definition of "discount".

    Isn't it a payment into the account?

    If the 'cashback' is lower than the bill for that month, the monthly utility bill is reduced by that amount (IE for me this month the DD payment to uw was about £57 instead of £115). If the cashback is greater than the bill amount then no payment is taken and the excess cashback is paid into the members bank account (assuming they are using DD, don't know the mechanics for non dd customers)


    UW Distributor


    by the way, do you know of any payment method that is entirely risk free? or of a better prepay cashback card than UW's?
    “Things that I felt absolutely sure of but a few years ago, I do not believe now. This thought makes me see more clearly how foolish it would be to expect all men to agree with me.” - Jim Rohn
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    You're brilliant! Another, "Over at the Rep's Forum"-type post - and it's the same link (AGAIN!)

    Always pleased to get a compliment like this. Thank you.

    Want to see a rep at work with a different gullible?

    http://www.networkerplus.co.uk/videos/gary-whittaker-customer-gathering.html
  • jimexbox
    jimexbox Posts: 12,480 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Decado23 wrote: »
    heh, most reasonable people wouldn't see this as any worse than the new customer deals and switching cashback available elsewhere (do you consider those shamefull as well?). Of course it would be nice to offer the deal to all UW customers but that's not possible under the circumstances.


    UW Distributor

    Most people as in reps? UW customers who leave and then come back still are not eligible for the discount. This discount has more hoops that the Olympics.

    It may be worth talking to the UW legal expert uptomyeyeballs.:rotfl:
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Decado23 wrote: »
    do you know of any payment method that is entirely risk free? or of a better prepay cashback card than UW's?

    There are plenty of payment methods where the 2 risks that uw makes its prepayment card holders accept don't apply! That would make them better than uw's!

    And there are other prepayment ways to get discounts from supermarkets.
  • Decado23 wrote: »
    by the way, do you know of any payment method that is entirely risk free? or of a better prepay cashback card than UW's?

    Good luck with this one Decado, I've asked for a 'less risky' alternative and I'm still waiting...
    Utility Warehouse Distributor/Professional Network Marketer
  • Quentin wrote: »
    There are plenty of payment methods where the 2 risks that uw makes its prepayment card holders accept don't apply! That would make them better than uw's!

    And there are other prepayment ways to get discounts from supermarkets.

    Vague/non-specific as ever...:confused:
    Utility Warehouse Distributor/Professional Network Marketer
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,059 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    edited 6 October 2009 at 12:35PM
    Firstly, to save a lot of typing, if AUWF is an accepted term for us fair minded objective posters, can we agree that PUWF(Pro UW Faction) is an acceptable term for you biased lot? ;)(joke - Keggs!!)

    It seem to me that the PUWF’s sole ‘claim to fame’ is the cashback card. However it is pertinent to point out that they were still making totally unfounded claims about UW long before the introduction of the cashcard – the totally discredited TVG being the central plank of their argument.

    I certainly can appreciate the virtues of the cashcard if it suits your spending habits.

    However it seems eminently sensible that if you want the cashcard then you have no need to pay £hundreds more for your gas and electricity to get that facility.

    However any rational argument on that issue is ignored by the PUWF. The fact that Carmine pays £233 more than the cheapest tariff for his gas and electricity - and has to spend over £5,000 to recover that sum – is dismissed on the grounds that he needs to regularly phone Uzbekistan or wherever;)(joke keggs) – despite the fact that telephone calls can be made for a pittance these days.

    Indeed before Carmine became leader of the PUWF, he advocated regular switching for cashback which netted £hundreds a year whilst of course paying far lower prices for gas and electricity than the very high prices UW charge. It is not difficult to envisage a spend of over £10,000 pa on the cashcard would be required to offset those savings.

    My point – get your gas and electricity elsewhere, rather than paying UW’s stupidly high prices.
  • Quentin wrote: »
    Always pleased to get a compliment like this. Thank you.

    No problem at all. Just taking another opportunity to draw everyones attention to how ridiculous you actually look in skulking around on private Forums in your self-appointed 'whistleblower' role.;)
    Utility Warehouse Distributor/Professional Network Marketer
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