Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

NigeWick

Cardew wrote: »

New readers.

UW have just about the highest Gas and Electricity prices in UK, just try any of the Comparison websites recommended by Martin to confirm the facts.

If you wish use the 'Which' comparison network and that will show exactly the same that UW have just about the highest gas and electricity prices in UK.

Which have stated the their gas and electricity is 20% more expensive than the cheapest.

Weren't you one of the main people stating that WHICH? methods are flawed? Are you now saying that you accept their findings?

How do you explain that Carmine and myself pay Utility Warehouse less for our utilities than we would to any other company?

I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

billsavings

NigeWick wrote: »

I have now explained myself to you a number of times and you have admitted to using the words >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< and you have not explained why you used them when they are not true. Why did you use these words?

I saw a post on here the other day which was removed by abuse as the poster was advertising.

The poster said something like he was a non active UW distributor and he would like to purchase some customers from other distributors to up up his total, as his had dropped below 50 and it was affecting the amount he was paid. Was he telling porkies or do you in fact get extra payments if you have got more then 50 customers?

Quentin

NigeWick wrote: »

I have now explained myself to you a number of times and you have admitted to using the words >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< and you have not explained why you used them when they are not true. Why did you use these words?

No wonder another poster referred to keggs and co as "parrotts"

You keep asking this question, and saying I haven't explained using "them" words but I have!!

A uw rep posted a thread advertising to uw reps who visit MSE that he was wanting to buy some customers from them. This was to get his customer list up to 50.

(Some uw reps thought this a poor show, and he was directed across to the uw reps forum to see if he could get a better response)

Uw rep Mike by the Sea explained why he wanted 50 - (if he has 50 customers or more apparently he gets all his commission every month without doing any more sales was the gist of the explanation).

Thought you would have seen that!

NigeWick

billsavings wrote: »

Was he telling porkies or do you in fact get extra payments if you have got more then 50 customers?

This has been explained twice in the last week or so. However, I'll go over it again for you. An independent distributor has to have 50 active customers in order to continually get paid full commission on all of their services for as long as they remain customers. Drop below fifty and the payments decrease, unless another customer is gained in that month. Drop below twenty and all payments cease until a customer is gained. There are no "extra" payments as such, but obviously the commission goes up for every extra customer gained. I hope that helps.

I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

Ypaymore

An acquaintance of mind who is a distributor told me he was a member of the 50 plus club, and i think he even got a badge for reaching the target.

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

You keep asking this question, and saying I haven't explained using "them" words but I have!!

No. You made a false statement in those particular words. >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< You admitted that these were your words. Why give false information?

You claim to post on this thread for altruistic reasons but refuse to post the link to your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card. Why is that?

Why is it that when two people have shown how they save money by being Utility Warehouse customers, you continue to state that others can not save money by being a customer?

Why is it that you continue call customers of Utility Warehouse "gullibles" when you have been informed that I find it personally insulting and abusive?
I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

1carminestocky

Cardew wrote: »

Actually I am a little concerned about WHICH.

They state that UW is only 20% more expensive than the cheapest gas and electric tariff.

However in the examples I have looked up, UW are 26% to 27% more expensive.

P.S.
You are really lucky to have Keggs 'on your side' with all his incisive and hard hitting comments. Why don't you thank him more often?;)

My net bill for September (i input my actual usage at the end of each month and get billed for just that so no debits or credits on my account!) for:

Gas 285
Electric 352
Up to 24mb unlimited broadband
Phone Line Rental
ALL calls (approx 300 of them, including some International ones)
Free calls to UW CS/tech support etc
Club fee
Monthly PAPER bill
One DD payment

...will amount to the princely sum of £29!

On your four and a half your old FIXED BG tariff just the gas and electric woud have cost me £36. The £29 I am paying INCLUDES unlimited up to 24mb bb/phone line rental/all calls in addition to the gas and electric. The telephony package alone would cost approx £45/mth with your preferred supplier. That would be £81 for the month.

Do you have any explanation for this?

I would like to pose a question to you, Cardew (i've posed it before :rolleyes:): would you say UW is the best supplier for me, given circumstances?

Quentin

NigeWick wrote: »

No. You made a false statement in those particular words. >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< You admitted that these were your words. Why give false information?

I've never denied saying "those words" so no need for you to crow (or should I say "squawk") about me "admitting" saying them.

I cannot see what you are trying to get at.

The uw rep posted asking to buy up customers to get him above the 50 mark.

It seems from what has been said, his motive was because having 50 gets him more commission than having 49!!

Why do you just repeat saying I gave false information?

Truly parrot like behaviour!!

vinnyph

I am surprised Quentin hasn't joined as a Distributor just to get the insider information about UW. For that matter seeing as he must be the person to have spent the most time finding out about UW to only not join why doesn't he just join anyway.

It's difficult to believe but when I first heard about UW I was actually more sceptical than Quentin. It took me 6 months to become a customer and nearly a year to become a distributor. If you can't beat em, join em as the saying goes.

Since then I have discovered it to be extremely well run with very low numbers of problems. My customers regularly recommend people. The Which reports do back this up.

Makes me wonder why the big 6 energy company customers are so unhappy with the service they get as indicated by the Which report. Could it actually be that UW do give better support.

UW Distributor

vinnyph

Ypaymore wrote: »

An acquaintance of mind who is a distributor told me he was a member of the 50 plus club, and i think he even got a badge for reaching the target.

I have a number of badges and I polish them every day until they shine like a pot of gold.

UW person