Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

Incidentally, Quentin what username do you use at the networker plus site. I use keggs as I do here.

You do use the same name as you do here - but you are the only one! It would save some embarrassment for you and your company if you didn't (bearing in mind the different personalities you show at each forum).

Your colleagues who have posted there and admitted to coming here all use different board names there than here!

Don't forget it was you who urged me to join in over there!

Quentin

NigeWick wrote: »

I have now explained myself to you twice this afternoon and you have admitted to using the words >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< and you have not explained why you used them when they are not true. Why did you use these words?

As the words you quote are in the post I wrote, I do not need to "admit" using them. (There is no argument from me I used them!)

I have repeatedly explained that I used them by way of reporting the thread your colleague rep posted advertising to buy customers of other uw reps who come to MSE.

Since then another rep has posted to explain that there is a good reason why a rep would want to have 50 customers, so what is your beef?

Mike_by_the_Sea wrote:

the relevance of 50 active customers is that this figure ensured that the ID receives their total commission for all customers, rather than a %age of the potential available if they are on less than 50 and don't achieve the requisite level of new customers signing up.

jimexbox

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

The telephone conversation was about specific subjects which were nothing to do with goings on at other forums, just what has been posted on this thread by certain individuals. They rang me, not the other way around. They were very interested that this thread continues to feature untruths and misleading information being posted here about the integrity of their advice and content.

What you say above is merely here-say, as the forum you mention is private and as such cannot be accessed by posters here (unless you sign up and lurk in the shadows there, breaking their rules if you're not a distributor).

Your poor attempt at 'bar room' lawyer reaches a new low. I've asked you repeatedly to quote any post which you believe in you professional capacity as imitation lawyer which you believe has libelled Which? magazine, which you have repeatedly failed to do. Why? Possibly because you talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk. Can I suggest you pop down your local to consult with the other lawyers present.

No one as far as I can recall, have indicated that the Which? 'survey' has been abused. I and others have repeatedly pointed out that using the the methodology that they use, which relies on folk voting without any external weighting which major pollsters use is open to abuse.

I say again, back up your claims! Quote the posts which you believe have libelled Which. Can you? Will you? I await a with huge anticipation your detailed response.

AvengerSeawolf

Quentin wrote: »

Over at the uw reps forum...

Yes, it's a reps forum, so what are you doing frequenting it?

Absolutely no reason to whatsoever if you're neither a customer or (failed?) ID. None of the info has any relevance to anyone outisde of UW.

Once more, your own obsessive and inexplicable behaviour towards UW only serves to undermine you and make you appear odd.

1carminestocky

I think that's unfair on the word 'odd', personally.

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

Well if you do keep a tally, start at zero!

Erm, no, that was the first one I spotted today in thread relaying to Utility Warehouse. We'll call that one. Now how about the other questions you are apparently trying to ignore?

I have now explained myself to you twice this afternoon and you have admitted to using the words >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< and you have not explained why you used them when they are not true. Why did you use these words?

You claim to post on this thread for altruistic reasons but refuse to post the link to your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card. Why is that?

Why is it that when two people have shown how they save money by being Utility Warehouse customers, you continue to state that others can not save money by being a customer?

I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

It has been commented on before in the past - how come the uw tariffs being so expensive its "customers"

That's two mentions in a few hours. How about answering the questions?

I have now explained myself to you twice this afternoon and you have admitted to using the words >>>(It sems having 50 is a crucial level in the uw mlm/pyramid operation to trigger more monthly payments).<<< and you have not explained why you used them when they are not true. Why did you use these words?

You claim to post on this thread for altruistic reasons but refuse to post the link to your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card. Why is that?

Why is it that when two people have shown how they save money by being Utility Warehouse customers, you continue to state that others can not save money by being a customer?

Quentin

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

What you say above is merely here-say, as the forum you mention is private and as such cannot be accessed by posters here (unless you sign up and lurk in the shadows there, breaking their rules if you're not a distributor).

I do try and avoid hearsay at all times.

Here is what they say:

Regarding the Which? report keggs asks:

has anyone found the comment "UW are about 20% dearer than the cheapest tariffs" a bit of a stumbling block.

He is advised:

have the Which reports printed off in A5 size, which tends to show all the useful information like position in the rankings, and overall satisfaction ratings while making the main body of text in the article too small to be easily read.

I've never come across anyone who actually reads the articles anyway - they just see them when I show them to them as part of the presentation - and remember you're not allowed to give them their own copy to keep.

Keggs replies that this idea is "sound"!

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

so what is your beef?

It has been explained that your information was incorrect. Why post incorrect information when the explanation had actually been written earlier in this very thread?
You were obviously not "reporting" on an event as it was your words and not somebody else's, you were making a statement. So, why did you use these words?

You claim to post on this thread for altruistic reasons but refuse to post the link to your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card. Why is that?

Why is it that when two people have shown how they save money by being Utility Warehouse customers, you continue to state that others can not save money by being a customer? You know, twice in just a few hours today for instance.

AvengerSeawolf

I've just been having a chuckle to myself whilst mowing the lawn.

Quentin has styled himself as some kind of UW 'whistleblower' with his constant 'over at the reps forum'-type messages, yet really, all he's relaying is:

'Sales reps of UK company discuss sales methods on their company website - there's even a few video examples!'

There's nothing to hide, but equally nothing of interest to anyone outside of UW. It's hardly news-worthy or damning is it? The idea that we discuss sales techniques? Don't all sales businesses do something similar?

Laughable really.