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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

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  • Plushchris
    Plushchris Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    Vinny, just a quick question, Why, if you are so proud of it, do you choose to write the fact you are a UW distributer in the smallest font possible while making reference to Quentins cashback card in the biggest font possible?

    Smallprint, you UW ID's love it dont you? ;)
    Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently! ;)
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    You asked for a post Jimexbox.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=24646827&postcount=5391

    Here you try to persuade carmine to change his energy to one of the other companies. There are many other posts like this as well. I said originally for clarification "Have you finally stopped trying to persuade people to move their energy away from UW Jime?".

    At least you don't try to openly attack UW and UW distributors in general like Quentin. Now you accuse me of waffling when I rightly defend my position.

    I think its more to the point that you have realised that you have run out of valid arguments. Carmine has already stated his position many times over and his reasons. Yet you still keep asking. Others have also answered, but you still keep asking the same question and accuse them of not answering.

    If people are happy where they are, why try to convince them otherwise.
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • Plushchris
    Plushchris Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    Which company did he try to persuade carmine to switch to Vinny?

    None/all of them? It didnt really matter as they are all cheaper than UW, whats your point?
    Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently! ;)
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    edited 29 August 2009 at 4:08PM
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Vinny, just a quick question, Why, if you are so proud of it, do you choose to write the fact you are a UW distributer in the smallest font possible while making reference to Quentins cashback card in the biggest font possible?

    Smallprint, you UW ID's love it dont you? ;)

    Its a small point you bring up. It's a small minded attempt in fact. It's not big or clever. I emphasise Quentins cashback card to draw attention to the ineptitude of his many false claims to then have the cheek of accusing others. If the only thing you can fault is the small text then well, I can live with that.

    Are you openly stating the small print with UW is bad?
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Which company did he try to persuade carmine to switch to Vinny?

    None/all of them? It didnt really matter as they are all cheaper than UW, whats your point?

    I never claimed he persuaded to go to a particular company. He has been trying to persuade people to leave UW based on it being cheaper elsewhere. The point being is that in carmines case it wasn't cheaper because of the free calls he would loose but I guess from your question you have't read the posts fully. No point in me moving either for the same reason. Does that clear things up for you. Jimexbox has been asking the same thing over and over again for weeks claiming no one is answering him where in actual fact he has been answered already.

    You have been on holiday for a few weeks you have some catching up to do.
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • jimexbox
    jimexbox Posts: 12,480 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    vinnyph wrote: »
    You asked for a post Jimexbox.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=24646827&postcount=5391

    Here you try to persuade carmine to change his energy to one of the other companies. There are many other posts like this as well. I said originally for clarification "Have you finally stopped trying to persuade people to move their energy away from UW Jime?".

    At least you don't try to openly attack UW and UW distributors in general like Quentin. Now you accuse me of waffling when I rightly defend my position.

    I think its more to the point that you have realised that you have run out of valid arguments. Carmine has already stated his position many times over and his reasons. Yet you still keep asking. Others have also answered, but you still keep asking the same question and accuse them of not answering.

    If people are happy where they are, why try to convince them otherwise.

    Who did I recommend then? Now we all know, even you. That the upfront cost of energy supplied by UW is vastly more expensive that rival suppliers. I realise that you and carmine will never admit this, fair enough, but its a fact. Unless of course you spend a considerable amount on the UW discount card to reduce the energy costs down to an acceptable level.

    Last time I checked there were 55 tariffs cheaper than the cheapest on offer from UW. Each of the big 6 (boo hiss) offered multiple cheaper energy tariffs than UW. I don't need to name them, throw a dart at a print out and you will find a cheaper one, although I don't recommend this as an alternative to proper research.
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,725 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    jimexbox wrote: »
    I've already explained how and why my predicted energy usage has changed.
    But, you haven't told us what it actually is have you? What is your actual gas and electricity usage?

    I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    edited 29 August 2009 at 4:07PM
    jimexbox wrote: »
    Who did I recommend then? Now we all know, even you. That the upfront cost of energy supplied by UW is vastly more expensive that rival suppliers. I realise that you and carmine will never admit this, fair enough, but its a fact. Unless of course you spend a considerable amount on the UW discount card to reduce the energy costs down to an acceptable level.

    Last time I checked there were 55 tariffs cheaper than the cheapest on offer from UW. Each of the big 6 (boo hiss) offered multiple cheaper energy tariffs than UW. I don't need to name them, throw a dart at a print out and you will find a cheaper one, although I don't recommend this as an alternative to proper research.

    Its just an opinion you have Jimexbox that UW energy is vastly more expensive as you claim. I guess you base that on what the energy switching sites state. Like them you fail to give the whole picture though.

    My point is that I know a lot more than you about the marketplace because I have followed it for 8 years. I can accurately calculate my bill and compare through research as I am a physicist. Have you even got a GCSE or O-Level in Mathematics. I am qualified in Financial matters and have managed multi million projects in past so I am very accurate. Trying to persuade me its better elsewhere is like trying to teach a granny to suck eggs. I can work it out for myself.

    You are entitled to your opinion but expect to be berated if you talk nonsense.

    Are you still going to try to persuade people to swap their energy away from UW.
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • jimexbox
    jimexbox Posts: 12,480 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    NigeWick wrote: »
    But, you haven't told us what it actually is have you? What is your actual gas and electricity usage?

    I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

    Because quite simply my personal life is none of your business. I've already posted on numerous occasions that whatever figures I posted, I would be accused of making them up. So why bother?
  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
    Cashback Cashier
    edited 29 August 2009 at 4:08PM
    jimexbox wrote: »
    Because quite simply my personal life is none of your business. I've already posted on numerous occasions that whatever figures I posted, I would be accused of making them up. So why bother?


    Mate, you are the Cop Out King (TM). :p


    *cough* http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=24654959&postcount=5445 *cough*
    Call me Carmine....

    HAVE YOU SEEN QUENTIN'S CASHBACK CARD??
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