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  • UW isn't for you, mech. No worries. It's not the end of the World for you or them. IIRC your shopping budget is tiny due to you living alone and walking round quite a few stores. Not everybody has your shopping habits and/or lifestyle. Horses for course and all that. I think your 'dig' at those you believe don't eat 'proper' food is unfortunately a return to your earlier dig at households who have more than one car, though. Does you no favours. Makes you seem a little bitter.
    Call me Carmine....

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  • mech_2
    mech_2 Posts: 620 Forumite
    UW isn't for you, mech. No worries. It's not the end of the World for you or them. IIRC your shopping budget is tiny due to you living alone and walking round quite a few stores. Not everybody has your shopping habits and/or lifestyle. Horses for course and all that. I think your 'dig' at those you believe don't eat 'proper' food is unfortunately a return to your earlier dig at households who have more than one car, though. Does you no favours. Makes you seem a little bitter.

    People with more than one car are connected to not using a dining table how exactly? I can only assume that the personal attack is because you actually can't think of a way that spending more at Sainsburys brings their prices down?

    Are you seriously telling me that all those aisles in the supermarket which are for products other than curry sauce are only used by me and me alone?
  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
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    edited 16 August 2009 at 5:26PM
    mech wrote: »
    People with more than one car are connected to not using a dining table how exactly? I can only assume that the personal attack is because you actually can't think of a way that spending more at Sainsburys brings their prices down?

    Are you seriously telling me that all those aisles in the supermarket which are for products other than curry sauce are only used by me and me alone?


    What???? :confused: I think you have rather missed the point. The discussion regarding the curry sauce was meant to be light-hearted banter. You now seem to have got it in your noggin that all UW punters who shop at Sainsburys eat nothing but 4p curry sauce and eat it in front of their TVs?? :rotfl:We as a family buy generally basics foodstuffs but the vast majority of these are actually ingredients to make up meals from scratch. Their fruit and veg, for instance, is normally of a standard far higher than Mr Leahy's emporium. We don't buy ready meals on the whole but have been known to buy the curry sauce on occasions (oh no, I've mentioned it again :eek:). It's actually a surprisingly low fat alternative to the much more expensive brand names, you know.

    We have a dining table (I know, that must be surprising for you) and generally, when schedules allow, all 4/5/6 of us eat at it at mealtimes. Lots of fresh produce, most meals made from scratch, most of them low-ish fat as well.

    Why do you seek to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your seemingly austere lifestyle? :confused: If it works for you keep on living it, that's fine by me, but please, no more pious posts criticising people who don't and have no wish to live your lifestyle.
    Call me Carmine....

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  • mech_2
    mech_2 Posts: 620 Forumite
    edited 16 August 2009 at 5:50PM
    Why do you seek to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your seemingly austere lifestyle? :confused: If it works for you keep on living it, that's fine by me, but please, no more pious posts criticising people who don't and have no wish to live your lifestyle.
    Where you see "light hearted banter" I see drivel.

    Pious how? Because I suggested that comparing supermarkets purely on the basis of meals of chips with a jar of curry sauce on top wasn't valid? It may also not be indicative of a balanced diet, but you're the one going all pious on us telling us how great your diet is. Go figure.
  • Maz
    Maz Posts: 1,405 Forumite
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    I think the point Carmine is trying to make is that people have different lifestyles. What suits one doesn't necessarily suit everybody.

    I buy fresh food and cook meals from scratch. One of my friends lives out of the chippy/pizza takeaway, another buys ready meals. All part of life's rich tapestry!

    I'm still trying to get my head round the fact that most supermarkets that I've been in devote an entire aisle to crisps!!
    'The only thing that helps me keep my slender grip on reality is the friendship I have with my collection of singing potatoes'

    Sleepy J.
  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
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    edited 16 August 2009 at 6:41PM
    mech wrote: »
    Where you see "light hearted banter" I see drivel.

    Pious how? Because I suggested that comparing supermarkets purely on the basis of meals of chips with a jar of curry sauce on top wasn't valid? It may also not be indicative of a balanced diet, but you're the one going all pious on us telling us how great your diet is. Go figure.



    Oh dear. I was only taking you briefly through our diet in response to your absurd assertion that UW punters who shopped at Sainsburys basically ate curry sauce whilst watching TV :confused:. You have previously described my household, rather tellingly, as 'Mr and Mrs Two Cars'. Of course, if I was to fashion a similarly derogratory phrase for your 'household' I would, probably correctly, be shown to be unkind. That's why I won't. Works both ways. This may come as a surprise to you but there are homes with more than one occupant in them and there are driveways with car/s in them. And there are people who value their leisure time over getting the absolute best possible deal all the time. It doesn't make those people wrong and you right.

    I still think you've entirely missed the rather tongue in cheek posting regarding the curry sauce but hey ho.

    If everyone saw 'light-hearted banter' as 'drivel', what a sad(der) old world it would be...
    Call me Carmine....

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  • mech_2
    mech_2 Posts: 620 Forumite
    Maz wrote: »
    I think the point Carmine is trying to make is that people have different lifestyles.
    No that was my point. Most people don't have Carmine's particular (possibly manufactured) set of requirements that add up to UW being a good deal. He doesn't like that being pointed out, so rather than counter any points being made he resorts to personal abuse and extremely weak fabricated claims that I called him names, which I never did. This is why I'm going to go back to ignoring him.

    The fact remains that some things remain true whatever your lifestyle. £x off a shop of £xx applies whatever goods you are buying. Even in percentage terms you could spend several times more than I do and still get similar discounts, because I can't actually spend enough to use most of the vouchers I get. Nor is it true that it is a massive hassle to shop around unless you are bedridden and never go near any shops in your day-to-day life. All this kind of stuff is just blatent untruths designed to protect the hard-sell tactics of those with vested interests in promoting Utility Warehouse.

    If you get only the UW telephone and broadband package, there's no need to get the expensive UW electricity and gas. I would suggest that for most peoples' energy consumption the price difference would add up to an unreasonable amount of daytime or 08xx numbers. It doesn't wash with me.
    What suits one doesn't necessarily suit everybody.

    I buy fresh food and cook meals from scratch. One of my friends lives out of the chippy/pizza takeaway, another buys ready meals. All part of life's rich tapestry!

    I'm still trying to get my head round the fact that most supermarkets that I've been in devote an entire aisle to crisps!!
    That's fine, but most peoples' supermarket shopping baskets are diverse enough that promoting one of The Big 4 supermarkets over another on the basis of one or two choice products is disingenuous in my opinion. Especially if we're going to criticise the idea of splitting ones shop.

    Generally the shelf prices are not that different. Even at the extremes we're probably looking at a 20% spread between Lidl/Aldi at one end of the spectrum and Waitrose at the other for reasonably equivalent products. Between the Big 4 the difference is single digits of percent. Generally, most surveys I've seen bring Asda out as cheapest, not Sainsburys. In these kind of comparisons, making the most of Tesco Clubcard points and vouchers doesn't generally get taken into account, so I'm happy that I get a good deal at Tesco, all things considered, whatever I choose to buy. The doubling of points awarded this month is just a bonus. This would apply however much I spent each week. Spending less doesn't mean a better deal in percentage terms until you run out of vouchers. It certainly does mean a lot of BOGOFs are counterproductive.
  • andybos
    andybos Posts: 114 Forumite
    hello all, any thing meaningfull being discussed today??
    Andy uw distributor
  • Maz
    Maz Posts: 1,405 Forumite
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    andybos wrote: »
    hello all, any thing meaningfull being discussed today??
    Andy uw distributor

    No, the usual 'I don't do it so why should anybody else want to do it' kinda crAp. Despite the fact that for some people, it's actually quite attractive.
    'The only thing that helps me keep my slender grip on reality is the friendship I have with my collection of singing potatoes'

    Sleepy J.
  • andybos
    andybos Posts: 114 Forumite
    hello Maz,ive notice quite a lot of abrasive chit chat in here!! I find uw very attractive,but I dont force it on people...its choice
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