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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Decado23 wrote: »
    Um, exactly why do you think you can tell someone else how to shop? If Nigewick is happy with UW then what's it to you?

    Why so aggressive?

    My comments are purely humanitarian.

    I would say the same thing to the spanish teachers who were mislead into thinking they were saving a fortune signing up to the UW, as well as any other gullibles who have been mislead!
  • Decado23
    Decado23 Posts: 255 Forumite
    Quentin wrote: »
    Why so aggressive?

    why not? I'm still waiting for that apology by the way.
    My comments are purely humanitarian.

    Where this thread is concerned, I find that highly unlikely based on your posting style (see post 2682 for details).



    UW distributor
    “Things that I felt absolutely sure of but a few years ago, I do not believe now. This thought makes me see more clearly how foolish it would be to expect all men to agree with me.” - Jim Rohn
  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
    Cashback Cashier
    NigeWick wrote: »
    Simple, Utility Warehouse does not suit you, so stay with your current supplier(s). However, I shop at Sainsbury's because it is on my way home from work and they are best value for certain items that *I* want. So much so that I buy about £250 per month of their products. When necessary, I spend the £50 required in order to get the 5% cash back for fuel taken from my utility bill as well. Because of my spending habits, I pay less for my utilities than with any other company. I also still get my Nectar points too.

    I think that all the people who support Utility Warehouse admit that the company will not suit everybody. However, the few detractors on this thread keep trying to say that it will suit nobody and that is obviously wrong.


    My nearest Sainsburys is miles away but we tried them online entirely due to the cashback card, just to see if it was a viable way to reduce one's utility bill. Really nice thing about the internet is you can compare these stores without leaving your abode and certainly without shelling out any of your hard-earned! We then discovered that, for our shop, Sainsburys were always much cheaper than eiethr Asda or Tesco (the other supermarkets on mysupermarket if we disregard the ludicrous Ocado!)...and often by a good 20%! Very surprising but there you are. I suppose our experience is exactly why these retailers decide to add themselves to these 'consumer incentive' schemes such as cashback sites and UWs cashback card - it's just another (probably more effective) form of advertising. We would NEVER have considred Sainsburys online without the 'incentive'.

    This is all documented (by me and others) on the Food and Shopping Forum, a cusory glance of which will confirm to you that SERIOUS MONEYSAVERS are now defecting to Sainsburys (again, their latest accounts published this week is further evidence of this). We used to do the rounds of the supermarkets and get the best possible price but never took into account petrol costs and even more importantly TIME. We now have our groceries delivered to us at a time convenient to us, no !!!!!!ing about traipsing round the soulless aircarft hangars masquerading as hypermarkets any more.

    PS Stangely enough, my wife drives past a Sainsburys petrol station on her way to work every day so that's not a problem filling up there (this would prove difficult online!). She just takes her car one day then my car the next. Job done.
    Call me Carmine....

    HAVE YOU SEEN QUENTIN'S CASHBACK CARD??

  • Hi Carmine

    The above link is broken. Are you sure it isn't a .co.uk ?

    Mike
    Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught - Sir Winston Churchill
  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
    Cashback Cashier
    edited 14 May 2009 at 4:29PM
    Hi Carmine

    The above link is broken. Are you sure it isn't a .co.uk ?

    Mike



    :D Try me.uk :p


    Forgot to say in my earlier post, if I add the phone line/bb/24/7 free calls to 01, 02, 03, 0845/0870/free cs/bb support, £10,000 accidental death insurance and 10 international destinations package to the net £804 for Gas and Electric, my total UW yearly liability for all that would be precisely £1044. Can't see that being too easy to beat :D. In other words, just £69 more per year than I would be paying for just my gas and electric with the very cheapest online tariff with the £60 exit fee (BG Websaver 3). Just £33 more than the cheapest paper billing tariff.
    Call me Carmine....

    HAVE YOU SEEN QUENTIN'S CASHBACK CARD??
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,726 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    Quentin wrote: »
    My comments are purely humanitarian
    Balderdash. You have your own wants and go along with them, but, you refuse to allow others the same privilege. Your posts in this thread show that you have no respect for what other people want. I was challenged to show how I pay less for my electricity and gas with Utility Warehouse and did so. I readily admitted that I use the prepayment cashback card to good effect. I am happy with the way I shop and also content with paying less than I would with the companies quoted to me as the cheapest. Carmine put up his requirements for utilities and nobody has been able to show him how he will get what he wants for less than Utility Warehouse will cost him. This is a money saving site and many people could save money if they are prepared to accept certain restrictions on their shopping habits and get their utilities from Utility Warehouse.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    The above link is broken. Are you sure it isn't a .co.uk ?

    When you take "the high ground", and resort to personal jibes you should remember that you are the uw rep who has been exposed trying to use this forum to run a so called charity event by suggesting MSE members join UW to "save" (though, of course, how they were to "save" was not specified), and get their joining up commission passed on to the charity.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=966

    You neglected to say if (or how) you would benefit from MSE joining uw.

    When challenged by a Mod over breaking the rules of the forum, and asked to provide a non referral link, you refused to do so, saying you would withdraw your promise of a charity donation if made to.

    As a result of your posts, the thread was locked, and UW reps were "banished" here as the only place they are allowed to discuss their business!
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    NigeWick wrote: »
    This is a money saving site and many people could save money if they are prepared to accept certain restrictions on their shopping habits and get their utilities from Utility Warehouse.

    And you say I post "balderdash"???
  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
    Cashback Cashier
    Has Quentin ever revealed his 'package'?

    kenneth+williams.jpg

    I mean, maybe he has and I just missed it :confused:. He's clearly going to have the very cheapest utilities package on the market (one would hope) so what is it? I'm sure that would help the 'gullible ones' in being swayed away from signing up with UW. A positive step for him to take, in other words...
    Call me Carmine....

    HAVE YOU SEEN QUENTIN'S CASHBACK CARD??
  • Miss_Moppet
    Miss_Moppet Posts: 48 Forumite
    NigeWick, thank you very much for having the integrity of admitting that UW is not for me, that goes a long way in my book.

    Decado23, thank you also, I merely used Carmine’s gas and electric annual consumption figures from his post because he offered them up for this purpose but it seems fair to say that whatever the annual consumption amounts taken as an example, you would be saying exactly the same thing, that UW is not for me.

    I say this because the real problem is the UW cash back card at 5%, which can be so easily beaten simply by careful shopping, as I mentioned in my previous post, and possibly the fact that recently I purchased a Dyson vac and got an incredible deal at nearly half the list price.

    When you couple that with the fact that UW’s gas and electric is significantly higher than you find on comparison websites, you then have the added problem that some of your cash back is in effect drawn off to compensate for the extra energy cost. With all that in mind I find myself wondering, just who should actually sign up to UW.

    Please don’t think I’m being awkward. I certainly have no wish to upset the various UW reps who have kindly responded to my requests for courtesy and politeness. Equally, I’ve no wish to upset the applecart in this matter so I do sincerely hope someone can show me where I am going wrong. Who makes an ideal UW customer?

    Carmine, it may be different now, but last time I shopped online with Sainsburys I found that the in store discounts at Sainsburys didn’t all appear on their website. On one afternoon alone, I found I could save £12 on in store deals as compared with buying online (and I wasn’t buying all that much). It might pay you to check this out too.
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