Budget live

patman99

CB used to be paid for the first child only. Maybe this should be reintroduced.
Would stop all the unemployed popping-out child after child because of the benefit bonus. Even my own B-in-L counted his CTC as income when applying for a car loan.

Blacklight

All I heard was 'interest rates aren't going anywhere for a very long time'.

FTBFun

stewil18 wrote: »

i not saying its the answer by any means.

lower tax would bring in more foreign investment, it would make us more attractive to those better off etc etc.

it would be interesting to see how other countries tax models would work here to see if there there is a fairer/better system that we currently have

Flat taxes are good for young, post-command economies like in Eastern Europe, but the "fairer" systems are those which take into account people's incomes overall, and that the richer in part subsidise the poorer.

I see you completely ignored my point about public spending.

ILW

Batchy wrote: »

Its all very well saying do not have this many children, but lets see in 30 years time when half the population are retired how they are supported with no funding in the coffers...

It may be sad, but the harsh truth is that on average, low (or no) earning parents tend to produce low (or no) earning children. Many who will never put anything into the coffers.

The_White_Horse

stewil18 wrote: »

and if you're earning more than £60k so that you no longer get CB, then you're fine - get over it.

choose between heat and food - you make the choice - unbeleivable

who are you to say that people earning over 60k are fine? you don't know peoples circumstances. 60k may be very comfortable for some, and may not be for others.

for a single man of 50 who bought a property in the mid 80's and lives in Leeds he may be loaded.

for a married man in his 20's with 3 kids who bought property in London at the height of the boom, it may be a struggle.

who knows.

N1AK

The_White_Horse wrote: »

the petrol increase is still happening. this is just an outright steal from the squeezed middle. the poor are fine, the rich are fine and the middle have been stolen from again.

The poor aren't fine. As much as the middle is seeing quality of life decrease, at least they are starting from a reasonable level. We've got nothing to worry about compared to low earners struggling with inflation.

You're response is much like everyone else's which is to complain about anything that doesn't benefit you directly. Obviously it's a valid opinion, but it's hardly a compelling basis to change other peoples' opinions.

The_White_Horse

i don't mind assisting the poor who work, but there are hardly any real poor in thuis country. their idea of poor is that they have to go to butlins instead of benidorm or they have to have an iphone 16gb instead of 64gb. i am sick of paying for these people when i am not flush myself. why should I? I don't work hard everyday for their benefit. I work for my benefit.

dori2o

ILW wrote: »

It may be sad, but the harsh truth is that on average, low (or no) earning parents tend to produce low (or no) earning children. Many who will never put anything into the coffers.

You Sir are a disgrace.

The_White_Horse wrote: »

who are you to say that people earning over 60k are fine? you don't know peoples circumstances. 60k may be very comfortable for some, and may not be for others.

for a single man of 50 who bought a property in the mid 80's and lives in Leeds he may be loaded.

for a married man in his 20's with 3 kids who bought property in London at the height of the boom, it may be a struggle.

who knows.

Don't worry TWH, you will still get you Child Benefit, paid weekly, that will not change.

However, the highest earner in your household, will then receive a tax return at the end of the tax year, and will be charged as part of this return a Child Benefit Income Tax Charge to recoup the money that is due to be returned based on your taxable income.

The_White_Horse

so all I have to do is move out for tax purposes and the money is safe. well done tories. a plan that means parents are better off financially by splitting up. laughable.

i think tax should be made voluntary in respect of welfare and public sector (other than nhs, education, defence, roads, police and courts). everything else should be voluntary and we will get what we decide to pay for. if there is no money to help scum bags it is because the people have decided to not give money to scum bags. Simples. perhaps it is all to democratic to give people choices.

ILW

dori2o wrote: »

You Sir are a disgrace.

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I merely quoted a fact, are you disputing it?