Ignorant train passengers

zippybungle

don't get me started on people who can't keep to the left when walking through the train station! :mad:

Hayzhog

When I was at Uni I was known to sometimes give a 'I'm in a really p***ed off mood don't even try to sit next to me' look after having too many Wierdos sit next to me and try to chat to me on the bus. Including bell ringer woman who proceeded to tell me of all the bells from the nursery rhyme oranges and lemons she had rung and how she had met her husband bell ringing (such an amazing story) and smelly BO people at 8 in the morning how can you create such a strong smell so early in the morning and I have to put up with this for over an hour??

Alias_Omega

Quite often travelling at Peak times from London, even with reserved seats you had to sit in the doorways. If you planned it right, you could sit in the doorway all the way to your destination (on the RHS of the train).

Often it was found to be more comfortable on the Virgin trains as the airflow would enter through the rubber joins between carriages.

Lavendyr

Someone sitting opposite me today was eating a banana and when getting off the train left the skin on the seat behind her. Yuck!

upsadaisy

timbo58

Ich wrote: »

I've been on services where the train manager has made it clear that if bags are on seats the owner will be expected to pay an additional full fair for the bag (don't know it that is enforcable but it got a lot of bags shifted and passengers sat down)

When I was in that role myself I would avoid stating that as you are thus equating ticket paid = seat which any regular commuter will tell you is a fallacy.
However there are a few byelaws equally as good: i.e. Bags etc (same as shoes) could possibly fall under 'liable to soil or injure the train companys property' which could be used to eject a persistant offender or one that refuses the TMs reasonable request to remove and desist.

It's bloody bad manners in any case and is designed to intimidate people into leaving this person with no one sat next to them.

timbo58

IenjoyAbargain wrote: »

I totally hate train travel because of this . There has been many ocassions when people were sat in my (reserved) seat and refused to move , its just shocking!

The final straw was one recent journey to London , when me and OH had the disabled space and the seat in front of it reserved (OH is full time wheelchair user) . We were on the platform waiting for someone to come with a ramp when this young lady with a pram literally barges past us, gets onto the train, drags the pram behind her and goes and comfortably sets up in the disabled space. Now, I fully understand prams might sometime use this space and I do not resent this but we were obviously waiting for the space ( only disabled seat on this particular train) !

Once we were on the train we tried rather unsuccessfully to convince this lady we reserved the seats ( there was nothing to indicate this although we DID reserve them) and in the end she put a headset on and turned the music up. I mean, honestly ! Even if we haven`t reserved, OH is disabled and its a disabled space !

When asking the conductor what could we do about this situation, he was embarrassed but conceded he can`t ask ' a young lass with a little one, all on her own' to leave the seat and hinted at how inappropriate our request was.

We had to travel in the hallway bit in the end, among a mixture of cases and with everyone walking into OH. He now refuses to subject himself to public transport, which limits our lives tremendously, and I wish people would realise what impact their actions have and how some things, although free, can cost others so much.

Sounds a bit weak of the TM IMHO however I wasn't there so I'm not going to make judgment except to say normally the TM is supplied a full list of which seats are reserved, -even if it had no reservation ticket (and let's face it -paper reservations are often taken out deliberately by other passengers -totally against byelaws and with a £200 fine by the way!) the staff can still enforce reservations although the TM has so many jobs and so little time on busy trains it is easier to take the non confrontational route esp as IME the Train operators will slap staff down hard if anyone complains and rarely actually investigate or take the staffs word for it.
It's a sad world I'm afraid and the arrogant & rude are taking advantage of 'customer cares' weaknesses.

timbo58

nellytheelephant wrote: »

I always buy 2 tickets if I'm going on a long journey, always get a cheeky so and so who thinks I should shift my bag for them, I've started to put my extra ticket on the seat so they'll sod off, hehe.... I don't want my extra seat ages away!

a) I don't actually believe this
b) ticket doesn't equal seat -it gives a permit to travel only, hence you could buy 500 tickets and not have the train to yourself.

pleasedelete

timbo58 wrote: »

a) I don't actually believe this
b) ticket doesn't equal seat -it gives a permit to travel only, hence you could buy 500 tickets and not have the train to yourself.

I think that even if you have the seat reservation and a ticket if you are not on the train it is not your seat. Saw a guard talking to a woman arguing that she had both seats and tickets as her boss wasn't travelling (but had booked and paid). Guard said hard luck and plonked old lady in seat.

Dogs! No-one has mentioned dogs. I was on train and midway in journey automatic doors open and a dog walks through on it's own. Straight past me and on. Bit odd but hey. Go to loo 10 mins later and dog is on a seat alone. Odder still. 30 minutes later guard comes down and sees dog. Calls catering staff and lots of muttering! Dog is carried down the train. I saw the dog getting off at York- the owner had 7 dogs. No wonder they didn't notice. They were in the 1st class quiet coach as well.

Murtle

timbo58 wrote: »

a) I don't actually believe this
b) ticket doesn't equal seat -it gives a permit to travel only, hence you could buy 500 tickets and not have the train to yourself.

But what if you reserve a seat?

Not something I have the luxury of doing sadly - season ticket holders are badly treated as far as seats go :rotfl: