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Buyer won't sign contract

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  • kazbrett
    kazbrett Posts: 15 Forumite
    That's a good point re the changing of the items - may consider it. EA has disappeared off the face of the earth and now solicitor is away from office until Friday. Will just sit tight and wait. Not prepared to lose house we are buying for the sake of these two items - just incenses me that people can be right sh*ts during the last week or so of the house process! We've been upfront and honest all the way through to both our seller and buyer and you do expect a level of courtesy back - however it just goes to show there are some nasty people around!
  • mossford
    mossford Posts: 7 Forumite
    Buyer sent through a spreadsheet of works she wanted done on the property she was buying from me which totalled some £8,000 and was seeking a reduction in price for this.

    This included cost of getting front door re-painted

    She was a first time buyer and estate agent explained to her that these costs were for her own account....she had seen that the property had a black door when she visited; the fact that she wanted it red was none of my concern

    I honestly don't think she understood that this was how it worked!!

    When buying, a got so frustrated that I paid £200 for the fitted carpet as I couldn't get stressed any further over the pettiness of the vendor

    Good luck - it will be war story in years to come
  • phoebe1989seb
    phoebe1989seb Posts: 4,452 Forumite
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    edited 21 March 2012 at 5:37PM
    botchjob wrote: »

    That said, our buyers behaved so badly in the run up to exchange and completion that I got very petty about a few things. We were moving to a doer upper so I ended up replacing lots of high-end fixtures and fittings (not specified in any of the particulars or photos) and replacing them with B&Q cheapo rubbish.

    Gawd, the buying/selling process brings out the very worst in people….

    We had every intention of doing the same thing as our buyers refused the EA's suggestion of each party (EA, buyer and ourselves) bearing one third of the cost of a new Rangemaster for us (or at least a good second hand model) but our buyers refused to play ball......admittedly it wasn't entirel their fault, but a misunderstanding, but it had originally been their suggestion to do this.

    We had v.expensive solid pewter handles on our kitchen units which we almost replaced with bog standard Been & Queued ones as well as a cheapo butler sink tap which we were going to swap for our perrin & rowe one, but in the end time got the better of us and we merely left the house not quite as well hoovered as we would have liked......

    Also there was a crack in the glass conservatory roof which their surveyor hadn't noticed and we intended to have fixed before completion, but in the end we left it.......not long after moving day DH had to return to the area for something and bumped into our buyers who said a few days after moving in a torrential downpour caused the conservatory roof to leak buckets.....whoops :D
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    kazbrett wrote: »
    If he'd been any sort of a decent individual, then I would have left a bottle of wine with a moving-in card - that's no longer needed.
    You can still leave the card and the bottle. Just make sure you drink the wine yourselves first.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 22 March 2012 at 7:57PM
    he dosnt hold all the cards he just thinks he does...

    Absolutely correct.

    If a buyer is decent, negotiates in good faith, and keeps to their word, then you should bend over backwards to honour your deal, no matter what.

    But if a buyer wants to gazunder at the last minute, be it for a large amount or something as small as a washing machine, they deserve everything they then (don't) get. :)

    OP, get the contract signed, it's not worth losing a buyer over a few hundred quid of white goods, but if they play hard ball then be sure to teach them a very expensive lesson they'll never forget when you leave.

    Cheeswright has a good list there for starters, and the freecycle or local tip are excellent sources of just about everything you could possibly have listed in your contract. ;)

    A decent and honourable buyer should walk into a perfect house where everything is ready for them to start their new life.

    A gazundering scoundrel should walk into a nightmare money-pit that'll cost them thousands more to get right than whatever amount they so smugly tried to cheat you out of.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    Absolutely correct.

    If a buyer wants to gazunder at the last minute, be it for a large amount or something as small as a washing machine, they deserve everything they then (don't) get.

    :)

    OP, get the contract signed, it's not worth losing a buyer over a few hundred quid of white goods, but if they play hard ball then be sure to teach them a very expensive lesson they'll never forget when you leave.

    Cheeswright has a good list there for starters, and the freecycle or local tip are excellent sources of just about everything you could possibly have listed in your contract. ;)

    So are you in favour of gazumping then Hamish?
  • kazbrett
    kazbrett Posts: 15 Forumite
    We went back and told our buyer he could have the white goods as long as he signs the contract and it is in the hands of his solicitor Monday next week latest. He has agreed - why wouldn't he! Our solicitor has confirmed this in a letter to his solicitor. Popped in and saw our EA tonight - transpires that he was pulling a fast one because of what he was saying to the EA. Too late now - but sale is progressing hopefully smoothly again now.

    Parting comment from the EA - "let's hope that when he moves in he finds the washing machine and fridge working properly... - I've given you a few ideas there"!!!!

    Two women selling this house to the buyer - a woman scorned is bad enough - two women - well, that's a completely different ball game :rotfl:
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    So are you in favour of gazumping then Hamish?

    No I'm not, actually.

    Gazumping is just as morally repugnant as gazundering.

    When I make a deal with someone, I honour it.

    Besides, neither are a problem under the Scottish system. And I have no idea why you English folks put up with such a bad way of doing things.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    kazbrett wrote: »
    Parting comment from the EA - "let's hope that when he moves in he finds the washing machine and fridge working properly... - I've given you a few ideas there"!!!!

    Two women selling this house to the buyer - a woman scorned is bad enough - two women - well, that's a completely different ball game :rotfl:

    LOL.

    Well done, I hope you really teach them a lesson. :T
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  • Spartacus_Mills
    Spartacus_Mills Posts: 5,545 Forumite
    kazbrett wrote: »
    You guys have all cheered me up! Thanks. Whilst I wouldn't lower my principles to his by buying fish and leaving in strategic places, I won't be cutting the grass, sweeping the garage/patios, cleaning the oven or even hoovering. Plus if he wants to come measure up between exchange and completion, then the answer to that will be that its not convenient. If he'd been any sort of a decent individual, then I would have left a bottle of wine with a moving-in card - that's no longer needed. We also have a brilliant social life with our neighbours and will see them regularly, so will definitely be filling them in on the situation. Losing some of the window lock keys etc sounds like a good idea though...


    You seem a really petty, vindictive, small minded individual.

    I wish you all the worst with your move.
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