Low paid employment

Soapn

and quite a high number of people, very close by, are claiming tax credits and god knows what else when THEY SHOULDN'T BE. I can't believe you have the cheek to say that people should wait and see if a better job comes along, when CERTAIN people are FIDDLING the system and you know all about it

iluvmarmite wrote: »

Why the hell would someone go out to work just to be worse off?? Of course working is better than being on benefits but not to the detrement of your family, if someone wants to wait untill a better paid job is offered then thats up the that person, if he/she wants to be able to see their kids then they have every right to do so, after all, why have kids if they are practicaly brought up by someone else, or put into a nursery where they have to share the need for attention with lots of other kids?

The same old sentences are displayed on here all the time, "Why should I have to slave away just to keep you on benefits" Well believe it or not, quite a high number of people on benefits have worked for years and years, paying into the pot themselves, they are not all young lazy good for nothings who are too lazy to get a job, they have every right to get some help when they need it, they have every right to want to choose a good job over a poor job that leaves them in poverty.

xylophone

"As for the wife and here volunteer work. Giving it up is a lot harder than some would think. She works in the local community, well known, very respected and a kingpin working with other less fortunate than most. To leave all this and others involved would cause a great void. Outsiders who are not familiar with the work will not understand."

Doesn't charity begin at home?

And as my old dad used to say, "There's many an indispensable man in the graveyard..."

As for not seeing your child, there are many parents whose work commitments prevent them from seeing as much of their children as they would like - should they be entitled to give up work and be supported by the state because they are unhappy about it?

Soapn

xylophone wrote: »

"As for the wife and here volunteer work. Giving it up is a lot harder than some would think. She works in the local community, well known, very respected and a kingpin working with other less fortunate than most. To leave all this and others involved would cause a great void. Outsiders who are not familiar with the work will not understand."

Doesn't charity begin at home?

And as my old dad used to say, "There's many an indispensable man in the graveyard..."

As for not seeing your child, there are many parents whose work commitments prevent them from seeing as much of their children as they would like - should they be entitled to give up work and be supported by the state because they are unhappy about it?

apparently so, many on this forum think it's perfectly ok, and when challenged, roll out the "bullying" card.

miss_marsters

Does anyone love the fact that OP is an unemployed man with an unemployed wife and a school age child yet thinks he should get a choice of waiting for the right job? yet refers to the 'cant work, wont work' jobless.

But OP you can work, but you won't work (well you will but for the money you decide)

Theres only one boat, and your all in it.

At least with the jobless 'chavs' are shameless enough to just say i can't be ar*** to work' rather than

• my wife volunteers
• I want to spend time with my son etc etc etc

Dont get me wrong, i dont care whether you work or not, or wait for the better paid job, i just find it amusing

That said, i have no idea why you need to ask for 'advice' on a forum, yet clearly have no intention on taking the advice

Hmmmm....

FBaby

iluvmarmite wrote: »

Why the hell would someone go out to work just to be worse off?? Of course working is better than being on benefits but not to the detrement of your family, if someone wants to wait untill a better paid job is offered then thats up the that person, if he/she wants to be able to see their kids then they have every right to do so, after all, why have kids if they are practicaly brought up by someone else, or put into a nursery where they have to share the need for attention with lots of other kids?

The same old sentences are displayed on here all the time, "Why should I have to slave away just to keep you on benefits" Well believe it or not, quite a high number of people on benefits have worked for years and years, paying into the pot themselves, they are not all young lazy good for nothings who are too lazy to get a job, they have every right to get some help when they need it, they have every right to want to choose a good job over a poor job that leaves them in poverty.

OMG, I hadn't picked up that the person was writing this message was the same than the person whose niece/daughter was fiddling the system with the full knowledge of what she was doing....

That might explain things...if she was brought up to believe that it is a sin to work when you have children, but have one has right to every benefit if they see fit to it, than it certainly doesn't come as a surprise that she resorted in years of pocketing in benefits as a single mum when she was actually married and her partner had been assessed as earning enough to support his family...

Soapn

it's quite disgusting really isn't it?
But apparently, if they come on here asking for advice about being complicit in breaking laws, you have to be nice to them because MSE is all about ENTITLEMENTS not judging people:mad:

FBaby wrote: »

OMG, I hadn't picked up that the person was writing this message was the same than the person whose niece/daughter was fiddling the system with the full knowledge of what she was doing....

That might explain things...if she was brought up to believe that it is a sin to work when you have children, but have one has right to every benefit if they see fit to it, than it certainly doesn't come as a surprise that she resorted in years of pocketing in benefits as a single mum when she was actually married and her partner had been assessed as earning enough to support his family...

Spendless

My Dad worked shifts when I was growing up. Fri/Sat/Sun 1 shift, Mon/Tues another shift, Wed/Thurs a 3rd shift following the pattern, days, afters, nights, off. Whilst it certainly meant in term-time we could not see Dad for a couple of days. In school hols it meant he was morely likely to be around at least for part of the day. My Dad was never 'hands-on' but with your shift pattern isn't there the potential for taking your child to school or picking them up? Possibly being able to attend sports days/assemblies -if your shifts fall right without having to use AL?

Go for it.

Spamfree_2

iluvmarmite wrote: »

Why the hell would someone go out to work just to be worse off?? Of course working is better than being on benefits but not to the detrement of your family, if someone wants to wait untill a better paid job is offered then thats up the that person, if he/she wants to be able to see their kids then they have every right to do so, after all, why have kids if they are practicaly brought up by someone else, or put into a nursery where they have to share the need for attention with lots of other kids?

The same old sentences are displayed on here all the time, "Why should I have to slave away just to keep you on benefits" Well believe it or not, quite a high number of people on benefits have worked for years and years, paying into the pot themselves, they are not all young lazy good for nothings who are too lazy to get a job, they have every right to get some help when they need it, they have every right to want to choose a good job over a poor job that leaves them in poverty.

I can't believe I am reading this.

You think that someone should be allowed to wait until a better paid job comes along?:eek: And it's alright not to work so you can see your kids and not have them brought up in a nursery?

If only the rest of us on planet earth had the luxury of sitting doing nowt waiting for a job that will never turn up:mad::mad:

debrag

As kids my mum worked 2 part-time jobs to help pay the bills, my dad worked shifts which eventually turned into just weekdays. My mum eventually got a full time job but worked nights for the extra pay and did as much over time as possible. We had no clue about benefits growing up.

kelfen

Back to the point.

You'd also be eligible for some form of Back To Work Credit, be that a lump sum of up to £250, or just payments of £40 weekly for the first 52 weeks.
HB and CTB will also have a one month run-on