Under the Counter Cigarettes - Bad for consumers in its present form

EycplUK

I feel that putting cigarettes out of sight will help, if not for this generation but the next. Think of the saying "out of sight, out of mind". If the younger generation grow up with no advertising of cigarettes, do not see their presence in every supermarket, do not see people smoking in restaurants and public places then it becomes less of a normal habit and less people will be inclined to take up smoking in the future.

Do not think so my friend !
This kind of legislation has been in effect for over 3 years in Thailand and smoking rates have NOT decreased !
To be honest i cannot see what difference it will make here niether !

aldredd

EycplUK wrote: »

Do not think so my friend !
This kind of legislation has been in effect for over 3 years in Thailand and smoking rates have NOT decreased !
To be honest i cannot see what difference it will make here niether !

Smoking rates in the UK have dropped every year without fail for many years now - they must be getting be getting something right surely?

I_luv_cats

The one bit of advice I took from my father "DONT SMOKE!"

I am so glad I did on monetary and health avenues.

Can't we educate more? Family and Schooling. (biology etc.)

Smoking will still be around - in the street, in the home, tv, films.

Some shops sell Tobacco out of sight already anyway (duty free!)

ThumbRemote

EycplUK wrote: »

Do not think so my friend !
This kind of legislation has been in effect for over 3 years in Thailand and smoking rates have NOT decreased !
To be honest i cannot see what difference it will make here niether !

The post you've replied to was suggesting that it's a long term thing. Slowly making cigarettes less visible to prevent people taking it up. It's hardly going to have a marked impact in 3 years; over 10 years is much more likely to see the effect.

In any case, this move is unlikely to have a negative impact, so even if it doesn't have a massive positive effect it's worth a try as there's no downside.

darkpool

ThumbRemote wrote: »

In any case, this move is unlikely to have a negative impact, so even if it doesn't have a massive positive effect it's worth a try as there's no downside.

apart from the negative impact of living in a nanny state. i don't smoke, however it type of annoys that the Government is persuading people not to undertake a lawful activity.

what next, we need to get a note from the doctor before we can buy a can of beer?

BlueAngelCV

darkpool wrote: »

apart from the negative impact of living in a nanny state. i don't smoke, however it type of annoys that the Government is persuading people not to undertake a lawful activity.

what next, we need to get a note from the doctor before we can buy a can of beer?

No but the government are also trying to persuade people to drink less.

If something is bad for your health and/or the country I see no problem with the government trying to "persuade" people one way or the other.

And let's be honest, the government do want to make smoking illegal in the long term, it's just not realistic at this stage.

darkpool

BlueAngelCV wrote: »

If something is bad for your health and/or the country I see no problem with the government trying to "persuade" people one way or the other.

i can understand your viewpoint, however i can't help thinking that dictatorship involves a million small losses of individual freedoms.

we live in a democracy, it just seems strange how our system rests on the idea that people can make logical choices about who to vote for, yet people can't be trusted in their decision to smoke or not.

custardy

darkpool wrote: »

i can understand your viewpoint, however i can't help thinking that dictatorship involves a million small losses of individual freedoms.

we live in a democracy, it just seems strange how our system rests on the idea that people can make logical choices about who to vote for, yet people can't be trusted in their decision to smoke or not.

how many smokers do you know who wish the hadnt started?
started young?
This is a passive move. it doesnt stop anyone smoking at all

darkpool

custardy wrote: »

how many smokers do you know who wish the hadnt started?
started young?
This is a passive move. it doesnt stop anyone smoking at all

so how about McDonalds? we stop them advertising because of fat people?

maybe stop football as well? after all some people have serious gambling addictions and bet on football matches.

you trust politicians to do what's best for us?

aldredd

darkpool wrote: »

so how about McDonalds? we stop them advertising because of fat people?

maybe stop football as well? after all some people have serious gambling addictions and bet on football matches.

you trust politicians to do what's best for us?

There are already restrictions on advertising certain foods, and both gambling and alcohol marketing will provide some sort if link/site to help those who feel they are addicted get help.
Are you saying the government are wrong on that also?