Be careful before taking Martins advice..

jem16

Randy wrote: »

I`ve just been through the forms and there is absolutely nothing on there to tell you about..

So it just tells you the amount underpaid? No mention of gross income, tax paid, tax code etc?

ceeforcat

We are here to help you - just because you have received these letters does not mean that they are correct - far from it!

Either you want help or you don't - post up the figures or don't.

Still cannot see how telling HMRC about your intention to claim allowance for uniform can result in any kind of underpayment, though.

Mikeyorks

Randy wrote: »

I now owe them £1500. So thanks Martin. :mad:

Always a little unwise to ask HMRC to re-assess previous years - if you haven't ensured you're paying the right amount? As is made clear on the dedicated 'uniform' thread you've just posted on - they do a full informal assessment of each year.

If you do nothing else - at least check the P800s have the right gross pay / tax deducted as shown on your P60s.

I`ve just been through the forms and there is absolutely nothing on there to tell you about

There's a cover note which should at least tell you the perceived reason why you're underpaid?

along with 5 other letters with re-calculations of my tax payments since 2006.

For the years before 2007-08 ...... contact HMRC and ask they void them. As Treasury have given an undertaking to Parliament not to pursue underpayments prior that year. Read posts #4 and #5 on this thread :

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3811927

For 2007-08 onwards - you need to post some details before anyone can take it further.

Randy

OK
Income Tax paid

PAYE 25148 4697
Car Benefit 4375 0

Flat job expenses

60

Personal allowance

6475

Tax Chargeable

4597

Plus other adjustments

509

Total payable

5107

Tax Underpaid

£409

Mikeyorks

Randy wrote: »

Income Tax paid

PAYE 25148 4697

Tax Chargeable

4597

Think you're going to have to sit down and study them a bit first! As my bold indicates - for that year ...... you've actually overpaid by £100

It is the :

Plus other adjustments

509

............ underpayment of £509 brought forward from previous P800(s) that's creating the underpayment of £409 for whichever year you're quoting.

I think (read my last post) you need to kill off the year(s) before 07-08 and get them to re-issue. Then come back with more detail. It's odds on the overall underpayment is to do with the car benefit. So as well as checking to your P60s you also need to check to your P11Ds.

suso

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

You should not give up yet.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3764835

completely irrelevant.

HMRC have not asked for the tax due, the original poster has asked for a review of tax for the year, ie a claiming a refund.

fresh information has been received by HMRC - ie - the expenses claim - so although they have not asked for the tax due in the past - because the the OP has asked for a review they are obliged to send out the information and collect any tax due.

ESC A19 is a concession for not acting on information in a timely manner, in this case, they might not have have acted and collected the tax due and written it off, but as the OP has provided fresh information it resets the clock.

Mikeyorks

Randy wrote: »

They`ve reduced my tax code to 290

On reflection :

1. If you still have the car benefit? Then your Code should be around that mark anyway? Allowance £7475 less car benefit £4375 = £3100 = Code 310 for this year.
2. So are you sure you're reading these P800s correctly? You said initially that you'd underpaid each year. But you've overpaid in the year quoted. What you actually owe is the last figure on the final P800 of the series (year 10-11?). It should also have a '15' or '16' to the right hand side of that value.
3. What's the amount - and the Code?

Randy

I'm totally lost now

John_Pierpoint

Stick with it, most people are when they receive a cascade of P800s.
You have to remember that the HMRC clerk is looking at things from their perspective, they are not really trying to educate you on how the tax system works, especially if it has not been reconciled for several years.

MothballsWallet

I've always had the impression that HMRC doesn't care about us ordinary taxpayers understanding all the paperwork, they just want it to have the boxes they need to work with and it doesn't have to make sense to the lay person.