Sleep curve mattresses

tiamai_d

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

The sales hype is trying to scare parents into paying over the top for what is just a foam mattress with a V cut in it, by saying that their baby has a 50% chance of having a flat head if they don't buy this mattress.

I keep having to repeat myself, but I have never said that the mattress won't work if it is needed. What I don't like is sales hype trying to scare parents into buying it.

Paremts don't tend to spend loads of money on speach therapy or physiotherapy if their child doesn't need it. But sleep curve are trying to scare parents into buying something they will probably never need.

Like I said my son had severe flat head syndrome, but is now fine without and special mattress, head band or helmet. Near the begining of this thread people were saying things like "I bought one of these mattresses and it stopped my baby having a flat head". But how do they know?

But the NHS don't pay for plagio treatment, it's only after 3 years of battling in the Scottish Parliment that we actually get any information on how to prevent it at all.

tiamai_d

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

So in your case it may be worth the money for your next baby in August. The trouble is that if you do use one and your child doesn't get a flat head, then you have no way of knowing if it was the mattress that stopped it, or if they wouldn't have had a flat head anyway.

The reason for my son having a flat head was put down to his weight. He was 10lb 7.5oz when he was born.

My eldest got brachy because he was premature and slept a lot and I was told to let him sleep on his back. I never got any information on tummy time, and when I mentioned to HV, GP, consultants about his head I was told it pop back out.

My second has a right sided hemiparesis (and was also prem) so he never moved his head to the right. And again I was told not to worry. It was only after a random comment on a bounty forum that I was told about Plagio.

This time, again I am expecting a prem, but I now know to swap cot ends, alter which side I feed, use towels creativly, have tummy time etc.

Just to be clear, I'm not buying a sleepcurve, cos I know all that stuff above.

OP read here http://www.plagiocephalycare.org/reserch.php and only buy a sleepcurve if needed.

rosie-lee

I'm quite surprised reading this thread.
My eldest has an odd shaped head. Whilst a baby they did a scan/xray just to make sure that there was no pressure or abnomalities of his brain resulting. Thankfully there wasn't.

The consultant explained that they refer to this as a parrallogram (sp?) head and unless any weakness in either his left or right side developed there was nothing to worry about.

He was right.
My son still has a head that looks like he's been walloped with a flat pan at the back but he hardly looks deformed! No-one has ever commented and are surprised if I ever point it out. At 7 he likes his hair quite lengthy but this is probably a phrase and I doubt very much he will worry about it when he wants short hair.

Clicking on the links there seems to be no worrying evidence to support problems indeed if worrying about a bit of teasing in the playground is the on the list of concerns it all sounds a bit shallow to me. If it's not one thing it will be another, glasses etc.

There is no way I would have stuck my son in one of those ridiculous helmet style things.


It is a license to print money selling something 'essential' for a baby, all parent want the best for their children and scaremongering them into thinking that 'special pillows' are needed is ridiculous. We have been procreating for thousands of years and as someone else mentioned, odd shaped heads have never arisen as problematic issue.




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nadnad

MOST children do not have flat heads, therefore most children would not need this mattress. In my opinion it is a bit of a gimmick. Children spend too much time on their backs now - i know they have to sleep that way, but during the day they really need to be on their tummys more. they spend time in car seat, in bouncy chairs, on activity mats always on their back. I would imagine putting them on their front more during the day would greatly reduce possibility of "flat head"

tiamai_d

nadnad wrote: »

MOST children do not have flat heads, therefore most children would not need this mattress. In my opinion it is a bit of a gimmick. Children spend too much time on their backs now - i know they have to sleep that way, but during the day they really need to be on their tummys more. they spend time in car seat, in bouncy chairs, on activity mats always on their back. I would imagine putting them on their front more during the day would greatly reduce possibility of "flat head"

Exactly, but most new parents have never heard of tummy time or 'back to sleep, tummy to play'. It seems to have gotten lost amongst the back to sleep message.

Physiotherapists have also noted that a lack of tummy time is making babies roll over, sit up, crawl etc later than say 10 years ago.

David_Elsy

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Ouch, that is a lot for what is basically a mattress topper with a v shaped cut out.

Tim, its acually nothing compaired to the £2000 you have to fork out for helmet treatment when the plagiocephaly gets too severe, eg in my sisters sons case.
As soon as I noticed my daughter getting a flathead I bought the SleepCurve mattress and it corrected the flattening immediately. I think SleepCurve should be standard to all newborns. I couldnt believe how well she slept on it. My wife and I were thrilled as it meant we finally got great nights sleep.
I've recommended it to numerous people and everyone has loved it!

Dont mock it if you havent tried it. This one is really worth every penny!

nadnad

I'm not mocking it but i seriously think a lot of this could be avoided if parents put babies on the tummy at every opportunity. Before the "back to sleep" campaign most parents put babies to sleep on their tummies - so in effect they were spending probably more than half their life on their tummies, and this meant they didnt mind so much lying on their front during the day too, but now they are sleeping on their backs and playing on their backs - spending so much time putting pressure on their soft skulls - this is going to increase the amount of misshapen heads, but can be avoided.

Also like a poster has already stated when my mum was a baby she was put to sleep on her back (shes in her 50s) and so were most children of that era i believe - and i dont she a whole generation of flat heads!

Tim_Deegan

David_Elsy wrote: »

Tim, its acually nothing compaired to the £2000 you have to fork out for helmet treatment when the plagiocephaly gets too severe, eg in my sisters sons case.
As soon as I noticed my daughter getting a flathead I bought the SleepCurve mattress and it corrected the flattening immediately. I think SleepCurve should be standard to all newborns. I couldnt believe how well she slept on it. My wife and I were thrilled as it meant we finally got great nights sleep.
I've recommended it to numerous people and everyone has loved it!

Dont mock it if you havent tried it. This one is really worth every penny!

And how do you know their head wouldn have gone back to normal without it?

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but in the last three days there have been three posts that sound like sales pitch, and all three have been first posts from new members.

Tim_Deegan

nadnad wrote: »

Also like a poster has already stated when my mum was a baby she was put to sleep on her back (shes in her 50s) and so were most children of that era i believe - and i dont she a whole generation of flat heads!

That's because unlike the sales pitch says, it is only around 5% of babies who develop even a slight flat head.

nadnad

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

don't know if anyone else has noticed, but in the last three days there have been three posts that sound like sales pitch, and all three have been first posts from new members.

strange coincidence that isnt it.