At the moment could someone stay on JSA for 4 years?

donnajunkie

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Well he could get a job if he started getting some work experience and going to college.
He would have to lie a bit about what he had been doing the last 14 years and say that hes been self employed/worked abroad or looked after a child or someone disabled. He cant just say signed on and done nothing.

wouldnt an employer still require some sort of proof like references? also wouldnt they see through it in an an interview when they ask questions about what he had done?

LisaB85

LadyMissA wrote: »

You need to be on the ball too. Treat an interview as a converstaion not them talking, then you talking then a million questions fired at you. As they are talking about the job ask questions and relate that to what you have done in the past by making comparissions.

It is true however the interview can only be as good as the interviewer and some I have had have been very bad, not even asking me anything where at the end I have even asked them if there was anything they wanted to ask me!!! :eek:

What sorts of questions do you ask and how many?

Try not to be shy as if they like you they will give you the job and if they don't you will never see them again.

When he was talking about systems I did chip in an explain I had used computer systems in my previous job, same with when he mentioned customers I did tell him about how I had done things in previous rolls.

I usually ask about hours, start dates etc.

dandelionclock30

One of my friends didnt have a job for 10 years and she made up all sorts because obviously she couldnt say shed been doing nothing. She was never asked for proof and she thought about what she was going to say before hand. If I remember right she did a course and they gave her a reference as did a friend who she said shed worked for in a childcare/homecare capacity.

LisaB85

donnajunkie wrote: »

jc staff have tried to refer me for jobs in a nearby town where the companies are often located somewhere that would not be possible to get to for the start time. when i point this out everytime they say you could get the train. the train station is at one end of the town and the companies are usually located at the other end of the town. when i use the word town i dont mean the town centre i mean the whole town.

I am supposed to look for jobs within 90min travel time which is fine, he has also taken to refering me to jobs in the city which is 90min to the city centre and the earliest time I can get to the city is 830am so any job I take need to be near the bus/train station. He seems to think a job that I will then need to get a 40 min bus out of the city again is suitable.

The city is a big place!

He just hates it because most jobs he points out I have already applied for as I look daily in all areas I can travel to, the ones I don't apply for I have already investigated the location etc.

Charityworker

I think people who have been unemployed for a while get used to it and then start to wonder why people work to be £10 a week better off than they are on the dole. I work in a community centre where we have a 'rent a desk' arrangment going with charities that want to use it for a short time. I was chatting to one of the people from a charity thats has a desk in there the other day and she was saying how the charity she works for offered to pay her a salary but she refused and said she would rather do it as a volunteer as it would affect her benefits. Her partner is unemployed and she has never done a paid job (I've known this woman for about 20 years) and they have 3 children, one of which is learning disability. So I think that unemployed people start to think 'why should i get off my backside and do a job I hate for £10 a week more than I am getting now?'.

donnajunkie

Charityworker wrote: »

I think people who have been unemployed for a while get used to it and then start to wonder why people work to be £10 a week better off than they are on the dole. I work in a community centre where we have a 'rent a desk' arrangment going with charities that want to use it for a short time. I was chatting to one of the people from a charity thats has a desk in there the other day and she was saying how the charity she works for offered to pay her a salary but she refused and said she would rather do it as a volunteer as it would affect her benefits. Her partner is unemployed and she has never done a paid job (I've known this woman for about 20 years) and they have 3 children, one of which is learning disability. So I think that unemployed people start to think 'why should i get off my backside and do a job I hate for £10 a week more than I am getting now?'.

perhaps but your example doesnt help the point you are making because she is actually getting off her backside and doing the job.

LadyMissA

Charityworker wrote: »

I think people who have been unemployed for a while get used to it and then start to wonder why people work to be £10 a week better off than they are on the dole. I work in a community centre where we have a 'rent a desk' arrangment going with charities that want to use it for a short time. I was chatting to one of the people from a charity thats has a desk in there the other day and she was saying how the charity she works for offered to pay her a salary but she refused and said she would rather do it as a volunteer as it would affect her benefits. Her partner is unemployed and she has never done a paid job (I've known this woman for about 20 years) and they have 3 children, one of which is learning disability. So I think that unemployed people start to think 'why should i get off my backside and do a job I hate for £10 a week more than I am getting now?'.

all people or some? I have been working since 1987 and out of work now for 18mths. If I could get a job where Id be £10 better a week than me 67.50, I'd do it!

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

perhaps but your example doesnt help the point you are making because she is actually getting off her backside and doing the job.

IF she has been offered a sjob she should take it and the only reason is the benefits would stop that she gets and too right it should!

dandelionclock30

Its not just about the money, at least you wouldnt have to sign on which is awful. I think people should be able to sign on online.

LadyMissA

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Its not just about the money, at least you wouldnt have to sign on which is awful. I think people should be able to sign on online.

signing on in person is awful? How so? If you allow people to sign on online 1. not everyone has a pc/laptop 2. you could be doing so from work!