Daydream thread continues.....

Itismehonest

lostinrates wrote: »

:money:


I now have decided on another thread not to go into any more detail on line. I think there is a chance this might not end well and I don't want to prejudice anything by discussing online.:o

That bad, eh? If so, I understand not wanting to discuss online.

Itismehonest

StressedSteph wrote: »

Hehe sounds like a fun thread:T.

I spent most of this afternoon trying to shoot crows with the air rifle. They keep stealing the birds feed and I have a few bantam chickens that I sometimes worry will get attacked by the crows. Did'nt hit a single thing though, I am such a bad shot. At least I scared them off though

All the crow family seem to be able to tell a walking stick from a gun - quite amazing. The best time to get them is in the nest or roosting if that's done on your land.
Oops I will now be moaned at by all bunnyhuggers :rotfl:

Itismehonest

rhiwfield wrote: »

Yes, welcome Steph!

There are also a few of us who enjoy as much self sufficiency and independence as their bodies allow but for whom a smallholding is a step too far

I hadn't forgotten you Rhiw, nor the others with more normal, sensible sized places. You were included in the 'own'. Not everyone wants acres & acres.

Davesnave

Hi, StressedSteph and welcome along.

Besides those mentioned above, I think there are a few who might think about smallholding in the abstract, but have no great desire to make it a reality.*

Then there's me; a former plant nursery person who fancied a change and a challenge between age 60 and 65.

Like you, we bought a run down place, though the bungalow itself is sound and most of the love it requires is simply sorting out the strange 'indulgences' bestowed on it by previous owners. As you know, none of it comes cheap.

* I see this has been covered now. That will teach me to light the fire and feed the cats at the same time as trying to post!:o

lostinrates

Not having acres is wiser for many who want a smallholding IMO.

I think there is a huge deviousness in small holding with 'the simple life' as I think life in a modest home with a garden big enough to be productive but not wholly self suffiencent is a simpler life!


Not that it's not a life to enjoy, or anything, just.....it requires significant forethought and planning, some extremely complex ethical decisions, some personal challeneges too.

Davesnave

lostinrates wrote: »

Not that it's not a life to enjoy, or anything, just.....it requires significant forethought and planning, some extremely complex ethical decisions, some personal challeneges too.

I concur with everything lir says, although the ethical decisions only apply if you are able to see or acknowledge them them in the first place!

I think you need to have a practical mind, though not necessarily oodles of ability. The guy who was here before me wasn't practical, but he got stuff done, and probably way faster than me. The problem is, much of what he did, now needs doing again.

Personal challenge? Definitely, though I do stop and wonder what else I could have done. The thing is, this is something my DW and I can agree upon, so if it's the passion of both partners I'd say it's a good choice.

Davesnave

lostinrates wrote: »

:money:I now have decided on another thread not to go into any more detail on line. I think there is a chance this might not end well.:o

Not much consolation, I know, but it's made me reconsider options, along with some badgering from the architect.

You haven't named anyone, so I can't see what you've said can be used in evidence against....etc.

Mind you, if it were me, I'd be soooo tempted, just like I was with....Oh look!

http://www.hallshatchingeggs.co.uk/

.....But there is more at stake. :A

StressedSteph

I must admit, that trying to set up a small holding with the idea of becoming as self sufficient as possible is incredibly expensive.

By the time we have our own veg and meat, if I worked out how much that sausage or veg cost they would be waaaaay more than what you would spend in town.

It HAS to be a passion for that way of life, otherwise it just does'nt make any sense.

Itismehonest

Looks like a chance of snow for your area tonight, Dave. Kindly hang on to it & don't let it venture west :beer:

Ethical choices. I reserve judgement on. Make those you can but, unless you want to live in a yurt, they're not always possible or always even desirable.

I saw a load of protestors at the Doha Climate Change Conference. Few looked to be native to Qatar so presumably most flew there to take part :whistle:

I've noticed that most people moving to the countryside start off full of good intentions but real life tends to get in the way to a degree. Whether it's chemicals, vermin, carbon footprints or other aspects of life we normally all end up making several exceptions to the ethical rules

Yes, Steph (may I shorten your nick? I'm an incredibly lazy typist )
You have to have money to live in the countryside. You don't move there to make it or save it.

alfie_1

hi all...hi steph

i am one of those thats an animog person [animals] rather than veggies....:D
i am fortunate that i have a friend who has land and i keep the hoss's for free.. it would not be possible financially otherwise...
the animals i have at home cost me similar to MY food bill...:o
BUT........ they are my joy in life..
i am a softie, i couldnt keep and kill
BUT ...i understand the need if they have a good life and a sressless end.
its when people think its a means to an end but dont have the staying power with regards welfare and costs.
as mentioned if its to provide for ones self then the knowledge they were happy animogs makes it worth while if not cost effective.

me .......i end up with MABEL that i could no more eat than my dog !!:D :rotfl::rotfl:

i will never be rich....:rotfl::rotfl:

p.s. 2 degrees here today...:eek: -2 at the moment :eek::eek: