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  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    Idiophreak wrote: »
    Zombie nazis?

    The daleks?

    If only it was something as tame as those, sadly, true monsters are behind it. In a few years time, those true monsters will be voted out, and another set of true monsters will replace them to continue the propaganda they originally started.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    LouiseTopp wrote: »
    You make us sound like we're from another planet :)

    Surely you have read the papers or watched television, the sick and disabled all come from planet fakingit.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • uponahill
    uponahill Posts: 318 Forumite
    edited 22 February 2012 at 8:49PM
    moose1982 wrote: »
    As it seems a few people have had a few run in's with abusive people, I wonder who could be stirring up all this hatred towards disabled people? :think:

    But don't you know that the public's perception of the disabled and sick is that they are 'benefit scroungers & parasites'?

    Plus we now have a dog eat dog society. The weak lose out (tough) and the strong get stronger!!

    I carry two special pieces of equipment in my motability car - a walking stick and a baseball bat!

    Getting the bat out in 'error' instead of the stick certainly changes people's opinion and views - strange that the whites of their eyes also tend to show up more!!
    You may think I am not serious - but I am, it's a nice solid 26" wooden one - that makes a lovely sound when tapped on the floor!! I really will have to make sure that my grandaughter takes it home with her so that she can play rounders with it!!
  • We've just applied for our BB and I am hoping my partner gets his as he has quite a bit wrong with him mobility and health wise although I really can't see people wanting to argue with a bloke who weighs in at 21st because one of his medical conditions makes him over produce a muscle building enzyme. Although I would love to see someone try to have a go at me and then have them turn round and see his great hulking mass behind them and have him tell them his list of reasons why he needs one!
    well today was a complete waste of make up :eek:
  • This is the reason why I haven't bothered to renew mine, nor do I intend to even though I have high rate mobility and am fully entitled to one.

    It just saves the hassle
    Wow, I got 3 *, when did that happen :j:T:p
    It is not illegal to open another persons mail unless you intend to commit fraud - this is frequently incorrectly posted:)
    I live in my head - I find it's safer there:p
  • I've only had it a couple of times, both from people older than me (I'm 40). I have Motor Neurone Disease and I give the same reply each time, 'I have MND and probably won't live to be the age you are now. I'd give anything to just be in a wheelchair by the time I'm your age'. People don't always realise that just because you are trying your hardest to live a normal life, this doesn't mean that you are fine or pain free or have a long life ahead. :mad:
  • Anubis_2
    Anubis_2 Posts: 4,077 Forumite
    edited 23 February 2012 at 5:43AM
    I rarely go out nowadays due to health, the most I do is the very rare supermarket trip, doctors, hospitals, and I have managed to visit my son at Uni once in the last 6 months. However when I was able to get out a bit more the BB was used more but I have never had any abuse yet due to the fact that my husband very tall and built like a brick sh@t house and is known for not taking !!!!. I have three grown sons too, so the four of them together ensure I don't get abuse.

    I also have a manual wheelchair ATM, and previous to that an electric wheelchair and many years ago a scooter. These are used every time, always have been because I have to, and I think it may help some towards not getting abuse, idk.... When I was younger I used to get funny "inquiring" looks as though to
    say "what you doing in a wheelchair" as I was younger and didn't "look" sick as such.

    However now I do look sick, and probably scary as I have not managed to have a haircut in years and I look unkempt as I am in too much pain to make the best of myself so I am a real scruff! :D Such a contrast to how I used to be but I am past caring.

    If I was to get abuse, I would be sure to put them straight as I don't suffer fools gladly, and the more time goes on with more people being abusive to disabled people, the more I am glad I rarely have to face the outside.

    It really is quite scary, I do feel parts of society are reaching the "kick a cripple while they are down" stage. The respect element is missing from society, and has been destroyed by the green monster and money. So sad. We should go back to the days of bartering, as money brings out the worst in people, evil deeds are done in the name of money.

    Personally I would sooner be poor and happy than rich and miserable. I have experienced both - not rich to a vast extent but certainly earning enough to not worry about money.

    Health is far more important and happiness and peace of mind even more so. Today people think money is more important than anything, and some spend their waking moments being bitter about what someone else has, how much money someone else has, and what posessions they have. We really need to appreciate what we have before it becomes what we had, but too many look at what they don't have, rather than what they do. So sad :(
    How people treat you becomes their karma; how you react becomes yours.
  • uponahill
    uponahill Posts: 318 Forumite
    edited 23 February 2012 at 11:25AM
    cit_k wrote: »
    Surely you have read the papers or watched television, the sick and disabled all come from planet fakingit.

    Unfortunately you are correct. Being truly disabled is not the same as being assessed as disabled by virtue of tests carried out under DLA/ESA rules.

    You can pass the tests and not be truly disabled, as you can can fail the tests as well.

    Then we have those that never claim any disabilitty benefit or apply for a BB - who tests them?

    Passing the tests does NOT prove disability, it only proves that you can pass the tests.

    A guy with no legs, poor upper body function and having bone cancer is NOT accepted as being disabled, unless he claims a disability benefit or applies for a BB.
    Where does he fit in the grand scheme of things - presumably and officially he isn't disabled!
    And that is an example of a real case that I am personally aware of!
  • saidan wrote: »
    reasonable assumption or not the behaviour was appalling

    i had no problem with being asked do you know you are in a BB space?

    no problem saying i do thank you and smiling as i continued

    what i did have a problem with was the verbal abuse i then received.
    Why bother?

    If you have a badge and you have parked correctly where you are permitted to, why even turn to talk to someone who is questioning you?

    All you need do is walk away as carrying on conversing with someone like that is only going to upset you.
  • pineapple wrote: »
    I'm sorry but there are worse things in life to get het up about. Fact is there is substantial abuse of disabled parking. There is an Asda in Halifax with reserved places close to the store and near the ATMs. So what do people do? You guessed it... I've had a go at these types myself. At least those who do challenge parkers are doing it with the best of intentions - which is to safeguard the places for those entitled. If people weren't prepared to go out on a limb to make these frauds feel uncomfortable, there would probably be less available disabled parking places.
    So yes it can suck to have a hidden disability and get called out by someone like me. But before you get overcome with rightous indignation, think about it...
    It is absolutely non of your business who parks where in Asda (or anywhere else for that matter) unless you have been appointed to keep disabled spaces clear for BB holders only by the owners.

    Being "called out by someone like you" is not something that anyone needs to put up with, disabled or not. It can be intimidating, frightening and downright scary.
    You are asking for trouble.

    I would not think to myself "Oh good. Theres someone who is watching out for the non BB drivers to make em feel bad. Great, that means the space will more likely be free next time". I would think that I am big enough and old enough to deal with parking issues if I need them dealing with.

    You are out of order and need to get on with your own business.
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