There are plenty of jobs out there!

dickydonkin

Derivative wrote: »

I can only assume you're referring to my post.

If you think that relocating to find work is a novel concept, might I suggest that you are the one 'living on a different planet', so to speak?

If you care to read my post again, I do not refer to anyones post in particular - that was (in your own words) your assumption.

But as you have responded, please enlighten me how someone with limited skills and qualifications would be better off upping sticks and moving to another area?

Many of the areas that do have a limited job supply will likely be more affluent with property and cost of living prices to match.

Some may indeed suggest your comment was crass and generalised and although I don't dispute that for professional roles, relocating is a realistic proposition, for the majority of the current unemployed, is it really worth jumping from the frying pan into the fire and uprooting a settled family to seek a minimum wage position elsewhere that may or may not exist?

Derivative wrote: »

Housing and deposits are something you can sort out when you get there with a loan or savings - that's a seperate issue from finding a job itself. You should be able to get a small personal loan if you go down to the bank with a job offer in hand.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Are you serious?

Have you actually been unemployed for any prolonged period of time in the current climate - or do you just read the Daily Mail?

It is very conceivable that many long term (or even short term) unemployed people will have debt, CCJ's and/or a poor credit rating.

Furthermore, many financial institutions require that the borrower has been in full time employment for a certain period of time before offering a loan - so hoping to get a loan with 'a job offer in hand' is for many an unrealistic proposition - although a loan shark may be able to help!

It is difficult for financially sound people to afford or obtain a loan in the current situation, let alone someone who has hit hard times!

Derivative

A lot of the above post is accurate and true. I can't debate most of the major points - it is of course true that debt problems and CCJ's etc. are more common amongst the unemployed.

Anyway - I'm going to be quite honest here and state my views on the subject.

Someone with hardly any qualifications, no unique skills to speak of, no money in the bank, and a family to look after - is quite frankly pretty knackered in the current climate. I can't sugar coat it - that's the way it is, regardless of what you or me think about it. If it comes down to a choice between you, and hundreds of other applicants all with the same qualifications for the job, you don't stand much of a chance.

That's capitalism - the laws of supply and demand. If you're going for the same jobs as everyone else, in an area where high amounts of people are unemployed, you're setting yourself up to fail. If you can make yourself more employable by moving area, or taking driving lessons etcetera, then that is obviously an avenue to explore. And if you saved money while you were working, you're in a lot better position when !!!! does hit the fan.

If you can't do any of the above due to money concerns, then as I've earlier stated, you're pretty knackered.

Not much more to say. It's survival of the fittest out there. I know I'm grateful to be in the position I'm in currently (in education, avoiding the battle for the time being...)

falko89

Derivative wrote: »

A lot of the above post is accurate and true. I can't debate most of the major points - it is of course true that debt problems and CCJ's etc. are more common amongst the unemployed.

Anyway - I'm going to be quite honest here and state my views on the subject.

Someone with hardly any qualifications, no unique skills to speak of, no money in the bank, and a family to look after - is quite frankly pretty knackered in the current climate. I can't sugar coat it - that's the way it is, regardless of what you or me think about it. If it comes down to a choice between you, and hundreds of other applicants all with the same qualifications for the job, you don't stand much of a chance.

That's capitalism - the laws of supply and demand. If you're going for the same jobs as everyone else, in an area where high amounts of people are unemployed, you're setting yourself up to fail. If you can make yourself more employable by moving area, or taking driving lessons etcetera, then that is obviously an avenue to explore. And if you saved money while you were working, you're in a lot better position when !!!! does hit the fan.

If you can't do any of the above due to money concerns, then as I've earlier stated, you're pretty knackered.

Not much more to say. It's survival of the fittest out there. I know I'm grateful to be in the position I'm in currently (in education, avoiding the battle for the time being...)

So I'm knackered then, retired at 31:( The sad thing is unless things change dramatically this may actually be true, I don't believe things have got anywhere near as they're gonna be yet either.

gettingready

Not everyone can drive/take driving lesson and/or move to a different area.

We know very little of people posting here, only what they/we decide to post so let's not judge people as such.

Situation is bad, no question about that.

Derivative

gettingready wrote: »

Not everyone can drive/take driving lesson and/or move to a different area.

Of course.

Not everyone can get a job, there's less of them than there are people.

EndlessStruggle

I have been struggling to find work for 3 and a half years. Degree, a year or two experience in various office roles. I'm working at the moment as a temp 30 hours a week, have done temp roles in the same place for various periods throughout the 3 and a half years then get laid off, look for other jobs get nowhere and go back about 6-12 months later when the roles come up again. I do distance learning courses through vision2learn, done an IT course and now doing an admin one just to try and get somewhere. I've also done some voluntary work and generally I've done all I can to try not to be unemployed.

I spent £2000 on learning to drive on driving lessons and tests and then the money ran out, am starting again now 2 years later and will need to throw more money at it. This time am buying a car and learning myself in it to save money.

It's different from town to town, city to city. So I hate it when people make generalised comments based on something they have read somewhere or from their town where things are different.

Homeagain

falko89 wrote: »

I would take anything but look at this, a cleaner job.

Job Duties:
General cleaning duties to include dusting and vacuuming.
Qualifications / Experience:
Must have 1 years previous experience.

I mean please come on.

I was out of work and took on cleaning jobs ... and I had certainly had more than a year's experience!

gettingready

Can not see the NHS enthusiast recommending whatever he did and setting himself as example but....

I got a job offer yesterday, again for the NHS and it is not 2.60 per hour and will be much more than £200 per month in taxes...

lori64

dickydonkin wrote: »

If you care to read my post again, I do not refer to anyones post in particular - that was (in your own words) your assumption.

But as you have responded, please enlighten me how someone with limited skills and qualifications would be better off upping sticks and moving to another area?

Many of the areas that do have a limited job supply will likely be more affluent with property and cost of living prices to match.

Some may indeed suggest your comment was crass and generalised and although I don't dispute that for professional roles, relocating is a realistic proposition, for the majority of the current unemployed, is it really worth jumping from the frying pan into the fire and uprooting a settled family to seek a minimum wage position elsewhere that may or may not exist?



:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Are you serious?

Have you actually been unemployed for any prolonged period of time in the current climate - or do you just read the Daily Mail?

It is very conceivable that many long term (or even short term) unemployed people will have debt, CCJ's and/or a poor credit rating.

Furthermore, many financial institutions require that the borrower has been in full time employment for a certain period of time before offering a loan - so hoping to get a loan with 'a job offer in hand' is for many an unrealistic proposition - although a loan shark may be able to help!

It is difficult for financially sound people to afford or obtain a loan in the current situation, let alone someone who has hit hard times!

Well said!!
There is no point in someone who is only qualified for NMW jobs to relocate, as there are so many people living locally chasing each post that it is totally pointless! And they are so skint, they have not got the cash to make a new start elsewhere anyway!
Nobody is going to up sticks and move to another area on the off chance that they will find a job!

debrag

When I was unemployed for 4 months I hated it and applied for bar work and care work. I ended up going back into home care the hours were crap, I made very little but I was back employed. I continued to look for better work and now I'm making £18,000 in a hospital.
Care work does no always require experience but not everyone can do it. One of the homes I also work at take on people with no experience.