There are plenty of jobs out there!

silkyuk9

gettingready wrote: »

Can not see the NHS enthusiast recommending whatever he did and setting himself as example but....

I got a job offer yesterday, again for the NHS and it is not 2.60 per hour and will be much more than £200 per month in taxes...

If this is referring to me, the job my daughter is doing is an apprenticeship which is £90 per week which is around £2-60 per hour. This is not with the NHS its a private carehome. hopefully this will lead to fulltime employement if not she will gain an NVQ level 2 in care work which should be enough to get her a job as a healthcare assistant within the NHS if a job arises, plus more money too.

Glad to hear you got a job within the NHS too now the fun starts and if you stick around for 20 years you will soon have an attitude like me, however this does not reflect on patient care as I am a likeable person who is considerate to work colleagues and will bend over backwards in the process of getting patients home to their loved ones!

gettingready

I do not work with patients and I do nto have "attitude" - the fun does not start as I have worked in a similar position for over 10 years already.

And you know very well what I was referring to, you "advising" people with several years of valuable experience in professional fields to volunteer as care assistants to get a low paid job at the end.

LadyMissA

gettingready wrote: »

I do not work with patients and I do nto have "attitude" - the fun does not start as I have worked in a similar position for over 10 years already.

And you know very well what I was referring to, you "advising" people with several years of valuable experience in professional fields to volunteer as care assistants to get a low paid job at the end.

I am very sure they said that. Yeah if you are a professional and have 20 years experience go and serve tea to patients! lol At the end of the day you will get a 'job' paying £2.60 an hour! Wow

gettingready > well done on the job offer. I do hope it works out well for you!!

Saturnalia

Funny how those who say that there are loads of jobs out there are always in work, not looking for another job and have little-to-no contact with unemployed people, in other words they have no idea of what they are talking about.

There are certainly jobs advertised but far fewer than the number of people wanting them. 50 job ads may look great on paper but if 1000 people are applying for them the odds aren't good at all. And that's before you rule out the 6 hours a week at NMW ones, the ones that are for night work in out-of-the way places you couldn't get to on public transport or on foot, the jobs in agency windows that don't seem to exist or at least the agency doesn't put you forward despite you having all the qualities the employer is asking for, the receptionist role that requires a 1st class degree + 5 years reception experience...

adindas

I think the key here is to look outside your compound. If you know that in the receptionist job the competition are very intense then think something else. If you have tried and failed then change direction do not just keep trying the things that you think it prompts to fail.

Get train for instance as an electrician, plumber, mechanics, or probably as a nurse, health care, dentist assistance, drawing technicians, math/science teacher, etc.

falko89

Saturnalia wrote: »

Funny how those who say that there are loads of jobs out there are always in work, not looking for another job and have little-to-no contact with unemployed people, in other words they have no idea of what they are talking about.

There are certainly jobs advertised but far fewer than the number of people wanting them. 50 job ads may look great on paper but if 1000 people are applying for them the odds aren't good at all. And that's before you rule out the 6 hours a week at NMW ones, the ones that are for night work in out-of-the way places you couldn't get to on public transport or on foot, the jobs in agency windows that don't seem to exist or at least the agency doesn't put you forward despite you having all the qualities the employer is asking for, the receptionist role that requires a 1st class degree + 5 years reception experience...

I would of thought like this until I was made redundant, It's shocking the lack of jobs, In January I applied for all the jobs I could that have been floating around for a while but its March this week and I've not applied for anything since, I'm at the stage where I am on the verge of giving up, I can't see away out, My only chance is working for myself.

Print_Screen

adindas wrote: »

Get train for instance as an electrician, plumber, mechanics, or probably as a nurse, health care, dentist assistance, drawing technicians, math/science teacher, etc.

Retrain with what money? The job centre will be very unlikely to pay, heck its even a struggle to get finance for something as basic as ECDL from them.

dickydonkin

adindas wrote: »

I think the key here is to look outside your compound. If you know that in the receptionist job the competition are very intense then think something else.

So then you have the problem of applying for a job where you may have diversified and trained in a specific skill - but don't have the experience - experience (as you should know) is now a general pre - requisite in most vacancies.

If you have tried and failed then change direction do not just keep trying the things that you think it prompts to fail.

Get train for instance as an electrician, plumber, mechanics, or probably as a nurse, health care, dentist assistance, drawing technicians, math/science teacher, etc.

Then you would have the problem of competing with the many experienced unemployed plumbers and mechanics. As for drawing technicians, maths and science teachers, then those positions require significantly higher qualifications which will cost money - something many unemployed do not have.

Saturnalia is correct.

Some people on here are job seeking in theory who are probably in work and have no idea what the currrent situation is like.

If some of the contributors on here haven't actually had to find a job in the current climate, then perhaps they should keep their own counsel as some of the 'advice' being provided is of very little help.

Derivative

I think that it is dangerous to simply disregard the advice given by those in work.

Stating that the employed have no idea how to find a job seems nonsensical to me. Perhaps if they have been long term employed for decades, yes.

Does it not make sense to assume that those who are having luck finding/retaining jobs must be at least doing something right and therefore their advice might actually be worth listening to?

And yes, it is very difficult to retrain if you have no money. That's why people should be saving money while they are in work. Having no money is an issue which compounds the difficulty involved in finding work again.

I am in a fairly stable situation at current (student with a part time job that is likely to remain in place for at least another 18 months). But I am saving every last penny because I know that when time comes to move on, I will need to have the resources available to relocate. I don't work to fund boozing at the weekend or to buy trinkets, I work to secure my future.

No help telling someone who's already in the hole that of course, but if it helps those who are lucky enough (if you believe in luck) to be employed to prepare for the future, then that can't be a bad thing, surely?

dandelionclock30

Some very strange "advice" on here!.
Its only really jobs which can help the unemployed, not everybody retraining when its often beyond the finances and circumstances of the individuals concerned. If people have a family,a mortgage and committments when in work then its very difficult to save for retraining which often costs thousands when the bills need paying. Can you imagine, "No dear Im not paying the gas and council tax this quarter instead Im saving for retraining for when I get laid off". Ridicoulous!
Its not advice the unemployed need, or help with C.V s or being patronized by the working.Its jobs plain and simple.