Child tax credit limit reduced to £26,000

shedboy94

melly1980 wrote: »

It doesnt matter if I name specific people or not. Why am I going to name individuals that you dont know. It would serve no purpose whatsoever and the lack of these names does not mean that I was referring to "everybody"

Lets just chalk this one down to experience, you assumed by mistake that I had claimed something that when challenged you can not prove. Just hold your hands up and we can move on.

Most people when posting what you did would indicate that you were referring to specific people, whereas you did make a generalised statement, but I agree we should move on from that point. You clearly were assuming about the computer statement though seeing as you have edited that from my post.....:)

queenbeeno1

property.advert wrote: »

I am sorry but if you cannot afford to feed and clothe your children then you should not have had them. Why on earth you think it is right that the rest of society should shoulder the cost of your benefits is deplorable.

Loony Labour has bred a generation of losers who blame everyone but themselves for their lack of opportunity. I suspect the main protagonists of this would still be found indulging in takeaways, ciggies or down the pub whilst bleating that they don't have enough income and worrying that the state largesse may be slightly withdrawn.

It isn't a fair society all right, not fair that there are too many spongers on the welfare state.

What are you sorry for? - the fact that you have made a biggoted statement that makes assumption about me and my family with no idea of my personal circumstances -or the fact that you cannot conceive that life is an every changing thing and that circumstances change in peoples life. The world is not a black and white place my friend. Welfare dependancy was created in the 80s by a Tory government who failed an entire generation not the "loony" left.

queenbeeno1

Welshwoofs wrote: »

I was also born over 40 years ago and raised by my Mother alone for the first 10 years of my life. She certainly couldn't afford to stay at home - in fact she had a full-time job and a part-time job to make ends meet and they still didn't (no central heating, no TV, no bathroom - just an outside toilet, second hand clothes etc)




You may not think so, but seeing as there's a global scientific concensus that unless we get to zero population growth within out children's lifetime we'll be screwed, I'd say your opinion is really more fueled by your personal feelings towards your own progeny than it is by facts.




So where would the shortfall in tax come from?




However, when it comes to having children, it's a case that the few are subsidising the many.

I assume you have no children - enough said

melly1980

shedboy94 wrote: »

t. You clearly were assuming about the computer statement though seeing as you have edited that from my post.....:)

:rotfl: thought I'd got away with that

queenbeeno1

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

I was also 'parented over 40 years ago' and almost everyone's mother worked. I can't think of a single childhood friend who had a stay at home mother.

Strange - because I can't think of a single childhood friend whose mother DID work

tiff

queenbeeno1 wrote: »

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

I was also 'parented over 40 years ago' and almost everyone's mother worked. I can't think of a single childhood friend who had a stay at home mother.

Strange - because I can't think of a single childhood friend whose mother DID work

I am 42 and cant think of any of my friends that had a Mum who worked. My Mum went back to work when I was a teenager, and that was part time.

Welshwoofs

queenbeeno1 wrote: »

I assume you have no children - enough said

That's right, I have no children and I don't think there should be any financial incentives to have children.

I'll ask again - if people want more money to be given to them for the children they choose to have - where does that money come from? (bearing in mind that total welfare payments currently exceed total income tax revenue.) The sick? The elderly? The 10% of top earners who are already contributing 53% of total tax? Who?

Sparklyfairy

Houseunderwater - thank for your post. I never claimed my dh pension contributions, stupidly, so this info is good to know.

zagfles

Horseunderwater wrote: »

WTC credit limit for single parents is £13k/year with hours of 24or more per week worked
WTC for joint parents is £18k/year = so any one in those 2 groups earning above that will not get either in 2012/3
CTC OTH limit for joint parents is £26k/year and this applies to one or more children

That letter is wrong, I started a thread about it a few days ago. The £26k limit for CTC only applies if you have 1 child and no childcare costs or disabilities. Otherwise it's a lot higher, eg 2 children it's about £32k.

MUMBO

To be fair, either the cap should be set at £26000 net not gross for workers so that it matches the benefit claimants income or the cap for benefit claimants should be set at the same as the workers net pay on a gross of £26000. Regardless of who can manage off what and who spends how much on whatever, the worker is being discriminated against and that's just not fair.