A job's a job..

LookingForNipsy

LadyMissA wrote: »

they prob do not top up everyones wages if on nmw

Well certainly not those under 25 and for those over 25 not topped up to a living wage amount either I don't think.

LadyMissA

LookingForNipsy wrote: »

Well certainly not those under 25 and for those over 25 not topped up to a living wage amount either I would think.

If I got a job at NMW it would be just that, nothing else

brutus1983

people who cant be bothered to work should have all there benifits stopped end of and if they have kids they should have them taken off them and placed with someone that will provide for them

i have a love hate with my job i love the satisfactory feeling of repairing or making something safe i take pride with my job but i hate the long hours stuck in an uncomfortable van or the endless paper work of risk assesments and method statements and work permits and pointless inductions or dealing with office worker idiots

yet i still get up at silly o clock in the morning to go to work to pay my rent clothe my kids feed my kids

Esoog

lolavix wrote: »

It's a difficult one.....I object to the people who genuinely just cant be arsed to work and just keep popping out kids, but I think a lot of people deserve more than they get - I know a mentally disabled guy in his 40s who has had all our old furniture because he gets so little in benefits he's constantly struggling, every job he has ever had they have let him go because he's so slow, he has even been let go from voluntary jobs, which i think is just sickening.

I know a guy like this, really nice guy, gentle giant but very very slow; he's managed to hold down a job at a car valet place for years now so there are jobs out there for cases like that

JodyBPM

I think that if you are currently not working and claiming, then you have responsibility to take a job, ANY job. It doesn't matter what you used to be paid, or what you think your worth is (and I would say you as if other people thought it too, you'd have a job at that salary, no?)

If you take the job, and subsequently your health suffers to the point that you are genuinely unwell, then, of course, take sickness benefits, ESA, DLA etc instead of working, as that is exactly what those benefits are for. Those benefits should be there for the people who genuinely need them. But not liking having to do something is not the same as making your health suffer! If you think that doing something you don't like is an illness, then frankly you need to man up!

But not taking a job because you think that your quality of life will be worse is, frankly, taking the mickey out of all the hardworking people who are handing you out charity from their earnings in jobs that the majority of people probably don't enjoy.

I work, part-time now, as I have children and our financial situation is such that I don't need to work full time. I get child benefit at the moment (although that will probably stop next year), but that is the only benefit I'm entitled to. So my drop in salary from full time to part time was funded by ourselves, I wouldn't expect anyone else to fund it, its OUR choice, so why should I?

Would my life be happier and better if I didn't have to work? Yes, of course!!! But, I have pride, and self respect. I don't think I'm "worth" a certain amount, I don't think I'm too good to work, but I KNOW I was brought up with the moral fibre which means I am not prepared for others to support me when I'm quite capable of supporting myself.

If you are of independent means and capable of supporting yourself, then by all means work as much or as little as makes you happy. But all the time that tax payers are supporting you, then you have a responsibility to work and pay your own way in life. If everyone chose not to work because it made them happier, then whose taxes would fund your benefits?

EdJRobinson

I hate going down to the Jobcentre every fortnight to sign on, I hate not being able to go out and socialise with my friends on a regular basis because my JSA doesn't stretch to it. Its all a depressing experience but it is also a motivator. It motivates me to search for 2 hours a day online at all the new jobs posted and then to put the effort into making my application as good as it can be so I get a job and get my life back. If you can work and choose not to then you don't deserve to get the benefits of honest folk.

LadyMissA

EdJRobinson wrote: »

I hate going down to the Jobcentre every fortnight to sign on, I hate not being able to go out and socialise with my friends on a regular basis because my JSA doesn't stretch to it. Its all a depressing experience but it is also a motivator. It motivates me to search for 2 hours a day online at all the new jobs posted and then to put the effort into making my application as good as it can be so I get a job and get my life back. If you can work and choose not to then you don't deserve to get the benefits of honest folk.

2 hours a day? Is that all?

And if you get sacked? hmmmm

EdJRobinson

LadyMissA wrote: »

2 hours a day? Is that all?

Thankfully if you visit some of the sites day after day they only show you the jobs since your last visit. 2 hours may not seem like a lot of time but the jobs market where I live is stagnant. Like I said on a different thread that its all for HGV licence holders and university graduates.

LadyMissA wrote: »

And if you get sacked? hmmmm

Fair point but I've paid my fair share of Income Tax and National Insurance over 12 years to claim. I didn't want to claim as I thought I'd be back in employment fairly quickly. Don't tar me with that brush!

JodyBPM

EdJRobinson wrote: »

I hate going down to the Jobcentre every fortnight to sign on, I hate not being able to go out and socialise with my friends on a regular basis because my JSA doesn't stretch to it. Its all a depressing experience but it is also a motivator. It motivates me to search for 2 hours a day online at all the new jobs posted and then to put the effort into making my application as good as it can be so I get a job and get my life back. If you can work and choose not to then you don't deserve to get the benefits of honest folk.

Sorry, I've got to comment on the 2 hrs a day too. Why not 7.5-8 hours like an average working day (or 8-9 hours + including commuting time?)

Sorry that having to turn up once a fortnight for an hour or so (as opposed to a 7-8 hr day 10 times a fortnight for working people) is a depressing experience and you must find it hard to not have money (that you haven't earned) to socialise with your friends, funnily enough despite DH and I both working, we don't have a lot of spare to socialise with our friends either, we spend it on income tax, national insurance, commuting, work clothes, childcare, mortgage, council tax, school dinners, prescriptions, dental charges etc.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that living on benefits will be fun for anyone with an ounce of self respect, but if I was made redundant and looking for a job, I'd be working at least 40 hours a week to find one, if I really wanted one. If there weren't jobs available in our area, we'd relocate to ensure we stayed employed. However, if I was comfortable living off of others, I could probably find a way to justify looking for an hour or two a day and discarding anything I didn't fancy...

LadyMissA

EdJRobinson wrote: »

Thankfully if you visit some of the sites day after day they only show you the jobs since your last visit. 2 hours may not seem like a lot of time but the jobs market where I live is stagnant. Like I said on a different thread that its all for HGV licence holders and university graduates.



Fair point but I've paid my fair share of Income Tax and National Insurance over 12 years to claim. I didn't want to claim as I thought I'd be back in employment fairly quickly. Don't tar me with that brush!

I look for up to 10 hours a day. Laptop will burn out at this rate. I apply for everything and anything and spent 3 hours today looking at retail websites (I have an accounts background) for admin work as well as applying for jobs on Reed, Monster, Total Jobs CV library etc Job applications today are 20 and will probably go to bed in a hour and up again looking at 8am.

To get yourself sacked not once but three times is just like walking out. Some of us have lost our jobs due to no fault of our own and were made reduandant.