A job's a job..

lori64

Dare I post this without being slated by the "Daily Malice" readers beating me up with their rolled up copies of said paper??

Sorry, but I dont believe that any job is better than none!
If a job pays little more than being on benefits, is it worth taking?

Also, not everyone is cut out for the 9 to 5 grind!

If a job makes you totally depressed and affects your mental health...is it still better to have said job, than no job at all?

I personally dont think so! The amount off people in the British workforce who take "sickies" speaks for itself!

My cousin, despite detesting her job, opted to get herself a mortgage of £195,000, hence commiting herself to being tied to said hated job, for life! The reason she did this?? "because, thats what everyone does"???? Good gawd...how sad is that! Oh, and the 4x4 on the driveway, just entrenched her to her hated job even more to pay for it! But, hey, as long as she is seen to be "working" then thats all that matters eh?:(

Like I said...I will be slated for this thread...but Im wondering if anyone will be brave enough to post their true thoughts, if its the opposite to what society expects of them!

LadyMissA

a job should pay more than benefits and that's where the UK have been going wrong. To think they are going to bring a cap in on benefits @ £26k NET! I never even earnt £26k gross when working and I know even on minimum wage or working TWO days a week I'd be better off so yes ANY job is better than none for me!

dandelionclock30

Nothing is worth your life being made a misery and if you truely hate your job to the point of severe depression I agree its not worth it.I know what its like to feel like throwing up as you see your workplace come into sight and to feel that theres no way out because of financial commitments.
I agree with you, and theres a difference to not being keen on your job to becoming severly depressed due to it.In my opinion nothing is worth your mental ill health and if a job is really causing you severe distress and upset then you/anybody is better off out of it.
You and your health are number one and your a long time dead I say.

lori64

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Nothing is worth your life being made a misery and if you truely hate your job to the point of severe depression I agree its not worth it.I know what its like to feel like throwing up as you see your workplace come into sight and to feel that theres no way out because of financial commitments.
I agree with you, and theres a difference to not being keen on your job to becoming severly depressed due to it.In my opinion nothing is worth your mental ill health and if a job is really causing you severe distress and upset then you/anybody is better off out of it.
You and your health are number one and your a long time dead I say.

I have read many off your posts on threads in the unemployment forums and tend to agree with much off what you say!!
Im feeling a lot off pressure on the job front due to being on the "work programme". They want me in a job, any job really! They are looking into trying to get me into driving jobs, despite me ending up on sickness benefit due to stress in that very area! Roll on September when I start my full time college course! Just hope I dont end up in Poundland before then! :rotfl:

lori64

K_P83 wrote: »

Well you wont get slated by me that's for sure. I actually agree with you.

I find a trend on the MSE forums, so i can see why you think most members will slate you for what you're saying. The impression i get from most (most doesn't = all) members is that any job is better than no job.
Similarly, the strong feeling i get from the tax/benefits forum is that they seem to think anyone asking questions about benefits is automatically a benefit cheat. Rather than coming across as wanting to help, i find they come across as trying to suss you out first to see whether they can certify you as "worthy".

If your job is causing you problems so your home life is suffering then no, it's not worth it.

Similarly, if you're in a job you detest, do you need to go get a £195k house? Could you get one cheaper? Do you NEED to get a 4x4? How much off-roading are you actually going to do? Do they live on a farm? Would a simple people carrier do the same job for less?

Oh, I think its more a case of people just obtaining "stuff" because its the done thing!
Nobody actually NEEDS a 4x4, they just feel they have to keep up with the trends!
Funny, but my dad got by perfectly well driving his Ford Anglia in the 70's to drive my mum, me and my brother around! Then he really splashed out.........and bought a Ford Cortina!!:rotfl:

Baileycat

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Nothing is worth your life being made a misery and if you truely hate your job to the point of severe depression I agree its not worth it.I know what its like to feel like throwing up as you see your workplace come into sight and to feel that theres no way out because of financial commitments.
I agree with you, and theres a difference to not being keen on your job to becoming severly depressed due to it.In my opinion nothing is worth your mental ill health and if a job is really causing you severe distress and upset then you/anybody is better off out of it.
You and your health are number one and your a long time dead I say.

I completely agree. My job is making me really ill but I am often reminded that I am lucky to even have a job in this climate. I don't feel lucky - it costs me £200 per month in fuel to get to a job around an hour away from home, so with that, the 10hr shift, and then the journey home, thats exactly half of my day. I literally wake up shattered, throw on my work clothes, go to work, come home, make dinner if I can even be bothered, have a bath, and then collapse into bed to do it all again the next day. And what for? I earn NMW so this just about pays the rent, my regular bills, and of course food with nothing left over by 3 days after payday, dreading the next 3.5 weeks. I was always a model employee in previous jobs, and never had any sickness absences. I find myself calling into work regularly just because I can't face it - but tied to my financial commitments and feel helpless as I have no option but to stick it out. I'm too ashamed to admit the true reason so pass it off as sickness & dodgy belly but I'm going to end up with no job which stresses me out more.

I was diagnosed with severe depression some time ago - I hate to think what my GP would say if he saw me now! :eek: I think there's far too much emphasis on getting a job for the sake of it, especially when you feel that you are effectively working for nothing. I'm desperate to be debt-free this year but can't even scrape enough together from the monthly bills to contribute towards the debts. Thing is, I don't think I'd actually be better off on benefits and obviously I am trying to keep my job despite my complete hatred for it, probably just about the same as being on the dole though! I try to remind myself that there are people out there far worse off than me, in horrible financial situations - particularly on here - and they're being so brave about it that it helps put things in perspective.

I agree with the suggestion about certain individuals "sussing people out" for benefit worthiness, it's not very nice. No-one wants to find themselves in the position where they have to claim, sadly it's just becoming all too common these days and I think people should be more understanding towards people who genuinely do want to work.

Whew, rant over!

morganedge

Interesting thread. You won't get slated by me, either!
For me, working for a living makes life a rather unenjoyable experience. I get to enjoy a few hours of my life (saturday nights) per week!
I also only earn a little over minimum wage. You might have an extra £25 in your pocket at the end of the week than the guy who chooses not to work, but he's enjoyed a nice, stress-free day, with a freedom to do what he wants with his time, whereas you've been taking orders, slaving away at work for 10 hrs.

Unless you are in a very very well paid job, or you happen to have an AMAZING enjoyable job (say professional footballer or a male pornstar) then the payoff of working for a living is certainly not worth it.

LisaB85

Should have seen the names I was called because I refused a job requiring walking/cycling for an hour down muddy, unlit and dangerous roads in all weathers apparently this makes me lazy not just of the mind set where my safety is important. Apparently I should be like Afganies who hold on to the bottom of lorries to get to the UK for work (ironically most end up dead) and all the posters on here cycle 3 hours to work and back each day working for 12 hours in between.

I'm not lazy and I will travel to work but I agree with you, I want a job but I also realise having a life, being safe and also being reliable to employers (eg being able to get to a job relatively easily in all weather) is more important.

To be a good employee I need to be happy in myself I also need to be able to travel in the least stressful way possible because lets face it when we get to work it can be stressful.

I am not lazy I have done some hard jobs, I did use to walk an hour to work and back or get a bus and wait 2 hours for a bus home at 11pm. I would work 6 days a week 8am-2pm then 5pm-9pm and it made me ill, on my days off I did nothing because I was exhausted I did similar jobs from 16-19 then again in 2009. I never saw friends, never went shopping, didn't eat properly. I worked and slept.....is that worth it for NMW?

I do voluntary work which is very physical and yes I do enjoy it but I walk there and back 30min each way then 9 hours hard physical work to keep myself busy so deffo not lazy I just realise life is important too. (it is an outside role which I still do in pouring rain etc)

In fact this year I am going to speak to local farmers about veg picking jobs :-)

hcb42

It has become too easy to stay on benefits. It shouldnt even be a consideration. JSa is about £65-67 per week or whatever, that is about 10-11 hours work even on min wage or close to it. as the working week is more like 37-40 hours, then that should be incentive enough to get a job.. However too much of the population has now become dependent on benefits of one form or another.

I too, do not agree with staying in a job where it is so bad it makes you physically sick. Been there got that t-shirt, but I got out, (and supported myself financially while I took a break .) But equally we should not make it easy for people to find an excuse not to work for ever.

Equally having a 4X4 and £195K mortgage is ridiculous if you have not first saved up enough money in long term savings to protect yourself for 3-6 months first.

jamespir

i agree with what you say op i think its daft to make yourself ill just cause a job is a job especially if your working your backside of for very little money but i dont think people have much choice these days

Harry_Flashman

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Nothing is worth your life being made a misery and if you truely hate your job to the point of severe depression I agree its not worth it.I know what its like to feel like throwing up as you see your workplace come into sight and to feel that theres no way out because of financial commitments.
I agree with you, and theres a difference to not being keen on your job to becoming severly depressed due to it.In my opinion nothing is worth your mental ill health and if a job is really causing you severe distress and upset then you/anybody is better off out of it.
You and your health are number one and your a long time dead I say.

That's absolutely fine, but the problem comes when you expect society to financially support your choice not to work.