Do you, or anyone you know, shoot living things for sport?

Owain_Moneysaver

Mandles wrote: »

Cant abide people killing for "sport". I would like to see how fast they could run if i had a gun, that would be fun!

Nowhere near a pheasant's top speed of about 60 mph.

QuackQuackOops

victory wrote: »

This is a very interesting website about pheasant shooting and how 35 million are special bred, while they are imprisoned many die from diesases,starvation and being hit by cars before they even get shot....
http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/pheasant.pdf

Which is nothing compared to the 35 million chickens who are treated absolutely horrendously every day!!!

ailuro2

Aliasojo, I've not read the rest of the thread, just wanted to sayI wokr with someone who goes shooting, he says the season is almost over, so it will be onto fishing for him.

He eats what he shoots, or passes it on to people who will, same goes for the fish he catches - he puts them back if they aren't going to be eaten.

While I do hate the thought of killing just for sport, if we all had to 'process' the chicken before it became the curry on our plate I think there would be far more vegetarians amongst us - in just a couple of generations we have become removed from the food we eat, and don't think about it as a dead animal on our plate or soemthing that was planted, grown and picked by someone else, our food is just something we bought from the shops.

Have a Google and see if there's a clay pigeon shooting range close by you - it might help to tell DD that's probably what she's hearing most of the time.

blue_monkey_2

We know lots of people who go out beating and shooting. Most of them are far from 'toffs' or 'posh people', they are country people, these are their country ways, it is how it has been for a long time and people from 'outside' some in and think their ways are wrong and want it stopped. Because they do not understand. The landowner is the rich one and it is doubtful you'd find him out on the shoot.

People who think it is wrong have a very different perception of the countryside - ie that is is filled with 'toffs' and 'snobs' killing for fun when the rreality is far from it. You need to stop confusing fox hunting with shooting and beating. Most of these people hardly ever shop in supermarkets and they have a far healthier diet than townies because they eat from the land.

My husband used to go ferreting with my mums bf. My mum goes ferreting now too. He is the guy that people call then the land is getting overrun with rabbits and the population needs controlling. The landowner will ask for it to be done. Then the rabbits are distributed amongst friends, family and the rest of the village.

It is the way it has always been.

Some people should get their facts right before they start spouting such nonsense!!

Oh, and the pheasant running around with injuries that gets away..... what do you think the foxes, birds of prey (which are thriving around here now) magpies and crows eat? Even the badgers will have a much on what's left. Nothing goes to waste in the countryside which is why you do not see loads of dead carcasses strewn everywhere when you walk around. Animals die every day, nature is what nature is and cleans up after itself. If you lived in the country you'd know that. And what is left the flies and maggots finish off!!

blue_monkey_2

aliasojo wrote: »

Wise post, thank you.

Thanks to the posters who have posted reasonable and informative comments, I do now feel further educated with regards to this subject. I have to be honest and say it still doesn't sit completely well with me, but I am aware that's probably more to do with my own emotional feelings with regards to big man v's small animal, rather than being based on considered thought, iyswim.

I do intend discussing this in an unbiased way with daughter and will raise the points made on the thread but it will have to get in line as we are taken up with another 'daughter problem' at the moment and it's one of those 'all you can think about for now' sort of topics.

Jo, I am a country person through and though, my mum, her bf, my dad, sister hubby and his family and my husband have all hunted for food in one way or another. I do not eat it, they respect my opinion for that as it does not sit right with me either - however, these are the ways of the country. Before this generation was born it was the only way people could eat meat.

The problem is people like you and I don't feel right and want to change people's ways and sometimes they do not understand the reasons why these things happen. Imagine what it would be like if no rabbits were ever killed and eaten, the country would be teeming with them and food crops would be anhialated so there would be no veggies for anyone - and then what would the vegans eat?? In turn they would have to be poisoned. Would that sit right with the vegans who now had no food because the rabbits have eaten it all?

There are reasons for everything, even if we do not agree with them, they are done for a reason, some things are century old traditions, why should we have the right to change them when we have no understanding on the matter. I do not agree with it either but there are shoots going on all around us, we chose to live here we should accept that, if we did not like it we could move somewhere that did not shoot, but it would still continue.

blue_monkey_2

Oh, and a pheasant flew into the side of my car out of the long grass when I was on a duel carriageway doing 70. It smashed into the front wing, bounced up, smashed the electric wing mirror off, bounced down the side of the car and left damage on the front and rear passenger doors, front and rear wing and even the bonnet. There was even damage to the window. Bloody stupid thing - 2k worth of damage and a claim on my insurance that I have to declare every year for 5 years. Bloody things!! You see more of them dead on the road than any other animal or bird so that speaks volumes. They really should be...... shot.

aliasojo

EdgEy wrote: »

Personally holding an opinion is rather different from not being able to understand why others don't hold your opinion.

Did you see those question marks in my post?

Thankfully others were able to and managed to provide interesting and informative replies.

Your initial reply was far from informative, it served no purpose other than to describe how you felt about my thoughts.

FatVonD

ailuro2 wrote: »

While I do hate the thought of killing just for sport, if we all had to 'process' the chicken before it became the curry on our plate I think there would be far more vegetarians amongst us

Spot on, I hate the idea of fox hunting but somebody shooting a wild animal that's going to be eaten is way better, in my opinion, than an animal suffering it's whole life on some production line.

I do believe it should be done when the young are not in the nest/burrow/whatever and I believe organised shoots take this into account and I do believe the animals should be shot rather than coursed.

jackyann

FatVonD wrote: »

I do believe it should be done when the young are not in the nest/burrow/whatever and I believe organised shoots take this into account and I do believe the animals should be shot rather than coursed.

Indeed they do, and so do people who go out shooting, that is why there are specific "seasons".

And good luck aliasojo - I know that "overwhelming" feeling!

Absinthe_2

As far as I know the pheasants are largely sold to butchers. Mainly abroad nowadays for pence, although good quality local butchers stock them. I've occasionally been given them from a shoot.

I've thought about vegetarianism in the past, I don't often eat meat, but every so often my body craves a little. All meat we eat was once alive, and this way is so much better than eating mass-produced meat from animals who've led a worrisome existence.