Greece...

Generali

I believe the banks are going to open at 4pm today (tomorrow?) for a short time to pay pensioners their pensions.

antrobus

This is apparently the question to be asked in the Greek referendum



They're not exactly making it easy are they?

Graham_Devon

antrobus wrote: »

This is apparently the question to be asked in the Greek referendum



They're not exactly making it easy are they?

Whats not easy?

It asks should the plans be accepted and then gives reference to the plans.

You then either accept, or you don't.

What would you suggest it should say?

danothy

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Whats not easy?

Finding either of those documents, or, more relevantly finding them in Greek, and then being sure they are the particular draft to which the referendum question refers.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

You then either accept, or you don't.

And you either know what you are accepting or you don't.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What would you suggest it should say?

It shouldn't.

Graham_Devon

danothy wrote: »

Finding either of those documents, or, more relevantly finding them in Greek, and then being sure they are the particular draft to which the referendum question refers.

One would assume they will be published before the referendum. In Greek, too.

It shouldn't.

So basically you simply have a problem with the referendum itself.

I'd be interested to know what question those of you thanking it would prefer to be asked?

Seems to me those who are more Pro-EU aren't so upset about the wording, but are more upset that the referendum has even taken place. it was always going to be that way, same with the UK referendum.

cepheus

Those lazy Greeks

mayonnaise

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I'd be interested to know what question those of you thanking it would prefer to be asked?

I'll let you know once I finished analyzing the 'Preliminary Debt Sustainability Analysis' document.

danothy

Graham_Devon wrote: »

One would assume they will be published before the referendum. In Greek, too.

Yeah, have a flick through at the voting station before making an informed choice.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

So basically you simply have a problem with the referendum itself.

Nope.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Seems to me those who are more Pro-EU aren't so upset about the wording, but are more upset that the referendum has even taken place. it was always going to be that way, same with the UK referendum.

It hasn't taken place, so what is there to be upset about?

Graham_Devon

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'll let you know once I finished analyzing the 'Preliminary Debt Sustainability Analysis' document.

Nice soundbite - but again, would you prefer it if the greek government didn't give people the tools to make their own informed decision without all the references?

What you have here is a democratic nation, giving the people a democratic tools to decide their own future, without any bias.....instead they simply reference the documents and leave it up to the people to vote as they wish.

Shouldn't worry too much anyway. Junker has already spoken on your behalf...

He proclaimed that "pension cuts were not in the creditors proposals" which as many pointed out is a total lie and then said: "You shouldn’t commit suicide because you're afraid of dying. You should say 'yes' regardless of what the question is."

I guess I'm wasting my time really. But to moan that the government is explaining exactly what they reference without any bias before asking a voter to accept or not.....pretty absurd.

danothy

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Nice soundbite - but again, would you prefer it if the greek government didn't give people the tools to make their own informed decision without all the references?

If those documents don't materialise then the Greek government will literally have not given people the tools to make an informed decision with the references. The question itself is hilarious in the tragedy sense though, even without the need to distribute the documentation it specifically asks about.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What you have here is a democratic nation, giving the people a democratic tools to decide their own future

No, what you have here is a referendum on accepting a proposal that will have expired before the vote takes place.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I guess I'm wasting my time really. But to moan that the government is explaining exactly what they reference without any bias before asking a voter to accept or not.....pretty absurd.

Ah 'bias'. Have you ever seen the no option put first on a referendum ballot before?

But quite aside from that, I suspect you are so emotionally invested (possibly to the point of salivating) in the idea of someone somewhere getting a chance to stick it to the EU somehow, that you can't help but assume that any comment on the question is 'moaning' about its wording.