MSE News: Government shrugs off Lords benefits defeat

wacko911

The cap should be 13K not 26k. Who elects these muppets?

Killmark

wacko911 wrote: »

The cap should be 13K not 26k. Who elects these muppets?

Politicians technically.

Ninnut85

wacko911 wrote: »

The cap should be 13K not 26k. Who elects these muppets?

Here here! If some families have to cope on minimum wage why the hell should those who can't be bothered to get off their backsides be given such a ridiculous amount of money!? £26k?! are they for real? I would love to be bringing home that kind of cash!

Zziggi

The way people are talking, you'd think every unemployed person/family got £26k+. They don't!!!! Most unemployed get no where near £26k. Let's just keep it in perspective.

FBaby

Does the £26K quoted include benefits such as DLA? I assume not as it is not mean tested, but it is likely that those family with numerous children are also in receipt of it for one child if not two which could add another £5K a year or more....officially making them high tax payers....

trynsave

Think I read that the move would affect 67000 families. That sounds like a lot to me.

rogerblack

trynsave wrote: »

Yes I accept that some families may have to move to cheaper areas - tough! Working families have to. Many London commuters have to pay huge train fares every day because they can't afford to live in the city.

So, because of house-price inflation, and perhaps the fact that you as a couple have 4 kids due to your ex-partners leaving, you now hit the new benefit cap.

Instead of living month-month, with no savings, as you're already having to make up the balance between the LHA rate and your rates, you suddenly can't afford your house.

Now, what happens?

There is no proposal for helping people move.

In addition, if you do lose your home, the council has a duty to house you.
This may be in temporary accommodation.
Which may well exceed 25K.

Zziggi

A couple with 6 kids may be hit by the cap. So they become two single parent families with 3 kids a piece. How does this save the government money?

I thought the Tories wanted to promote keeping families together.

trynsave

rogerblack wrote: »

So, because of house-price inflation, and perhaps the fact that you as a couple have 4 kids due to your ex-partners leaving, you now hit the new benefit cap.

Instead of living month-month, with no savings, as you're already having to make up the balance between the LHA rate and your rates, you suddenly can't afford your house.

Now, what happens?

There is no proposal for helping people move.

In addition, if you do lose your home, the council has a duty to house you.
This may be in temporary accommodation.
Which may well exceed 25K.

Sorry you are right. It is Society's fault that people can't cope unless they get bigger hand outs than lots of working people earn. No-one said life was easy. Best we continue to let the State pick up the tab.

trynsave

Zziggi wrote: »

A couple with 6 kids may be hit by the cap. So they become two single parent families with 3 kids a piece. How does this save the government money?

I thought the Tories wanted to promote keeping families together.

You are funny.