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cycling FPN gone to bailiffs

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  • dzug1
    dzug1 Posts: 13,535 Forumite
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    Well we did have a guy a week or so back, who went to pepipoo, didn't like the advice he got there, came here describing his treatment there and got lambasted again

    You can't win
  • sequence
    sequence Posts: 1,877 Forumite
    You should have appealed it not ignored it (like all the poor souls who can't read parking signs do) . I read a while ago that nearly all appeals for riding on the pavement are successful. * note I don't approve of riding on the pavement.
  • HappyMJ
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    I would keep on ignoring it....you can't be sent to prison for not paying a FPN. You can only be sent to prison for ignoring court imposed fines.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    I would keep on ignoring it....you can't be sent to prison for not paying a FPN. You can only be sent to prison for ignoring court imposed fines.
    The route to misery. Never ignore FPN's, court appointed bailiffs follow and the bills keep going up and up.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 17 January 2012 at 10:47AM
    Too late for the OP but this may help or guide others
    From here http://www.bikehub.co.uk/featured-articles/cycling-and-the-law/
    On 1st August 1999, new legislation came into force to allow a fixed penalty notice to be served on anyone who is guilty of cycling on a footway. However the Home Office issued guidance on how the new legislation should be applied, indicating that they should only be used where a cyclist is riding in a manner that may endanger others. The then Home Office Minister Paul Boateng issued a letter stating that:
    “The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required.”
    Almost identical advice has since been issued by the Home Office with regards the use of fixed penalty notices by ‘Community Support Officers’ and wardens.
    “CSOs and accredited persons will be accountable in the same way as police officers. They will be under the direction and control of the chief officer, supervised on a daily basis by the local community beat officer and will be subject to the same police complaints system. The Government have included provision in the Anti Social Behaviour Bill to enable CSOs and accredited persons to stop those cycling irresponsibly on the pavement in order to issue a fixed penalty notice.
    I should stress that the issue is about inconsiderate cycling on the pavements. The new provisions are not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of the traffic, and who show consideration to other road users when doing so. Chief officers recognise that the fixed penalty needs to be used with a considerable degree of discretion and it cannot be issued to anyone under the age of 16. (Letter to Mr H. Peel from John Crozier of The Home Office, reference T5080/4, 23 February 2004)
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    I think the op has admitted they only went on the pavement because the traffic in front (tram) had stopped, and they didn't want to wait.
    So apart from that, and cycling where the passengers were getting on and off, they also had a go at the PCSO.
    Probably a fair cop.
  • Norman_Castle
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    Probably a fair cop.
    I expect you're right.
  • alanrowell
    alanrowell Posts: 5,392 Forumite
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    The OPs choice is pay up or eventually go to prison for a few days until the costs are repaid in kind.
    If they did go to jail then they'd still have to pay the fine.

    The real danger for the OP is that the bailiffs do seize goods and sell for knock down prices - so they could end up hundreds or thousands of pounds out of pocket to replace them
  • rdr
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    mechanic wrote: »
    Nice to see them doing their job. Now they should start issuing fines for incorrect lighting, i.e. only one flashing light on the rear

    This is legal, although I always use 2 rear lights - one constant and one flashing
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    alanrowell wrote: »
    If they did go to jail then they'd still have to pay the fine.

    The real danger for the OP is that the bailiffs do seize goods and sell for knock down prices - so they could end up hundreds or thousands of pounds out of pocket to replace them
    It's a FPN. You don't go to prison for a FPN. If it was a fine imposed by a court if he went to prison the fine is written off. They could withdraw the FPN and take it to court for a magistrate to impose a fine.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
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