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19lottie82

Yes, "many" does mean lots. But you need a figure to compare it against.

I still stick by my statement that outside of London, not "many" people undertake a 2 hour commute.

scheming_gypsy

do you have a figure to compare your 'not many' to?

asparagusnextleft

If the OP lives further east than Barwick Road, then the bus options are pretty dire, especially early morning and there are only two buses to Leeds an hour. That's why I suggested trying to get to Crossgates or Garforth for a train to Halifax. That would be the quickest and easiest way to get there (from this part of East Leeds, anyway!).

heretolearn_2

Hi OP

To calm things down and get back to the point, no, you don't have a case here. Your employer can ask you to move offices and 25 miles isn't an unreasonable distance. There isn't exactly a fixed distance where they would then have to offer you redundancy instead, but I don't think you'd get anywhere trying to force a redundancy situation here. You say they are paying your additional travel cost? That is very fair of them. I don't think they are legally even required to do that. So your only 'loss' is in time. You just have to decide how much you want this job and start looking around for another one if you decide the commute is too much for you.

I think you lost a lot of sympathy by being a bit of a drama llama to start off with, you aren't now working 12 hours, and in any case being out of the house for 12 hours shouldn't effect your health unless you have some underlying health issues we aren't aware of. Some people find they quite like long public transport journeys - depending on the route and how busy it is, you can get a bit of time for reading/studying/doing nothing much without having to feel guilty about it...I used to do 1.5 hours each way and it's a lot nicer than driving that far! Sit down with the paper, chill out, it's not a bad way to start and finish your working day. Although I do prefer working locally of course, but it needn't be the nightmare you are imagining. And it isn't going to damage your health.

Sambucus_Nigra

19lottie82 wrote: »

Yes, "many" does mean lots. But you need a figure to compare it against.

I still stick by my statement that outside of London, not "many" people undertake a 2 hour commute.

Ooh, not so long ago; nobody did. Now its' not 'many'. In another hour we will all be doing it.

jfh7gwa

19lottie82 wrote: »

I still stick by my statement that outside of London, not "many" people undertake a 2 hour commute.

I've never worked in or around London, and have done around a 2hr commute in a couple of jobs in the past (I've been working in some capacity since the age of 14, and i'm in my late 30s now).

I know of two family members in my immediate circle who also have a 1.5hr ish commute (my uncle - works at a uni campus, and one of my older brothers - maintenance engineer). it's not as alien as you're trying to claim at all.

Perhaps if you've only ever been on NMW jobs or known people on NMW type wages, you'd have such a narrow view?

scheming_gypsy

19lottie82 wrote: »

Yes, "many" does mean lots. But you need a figure to compare it against.

I still stick by my statement that outside of London, not "many" people undertake a 2 hour commute.

Your figures are here.

http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/2010/11/11/56906/growth-of-homeworking-cuts-average-commute-time-to-10-year-low.html

average commute is 47 minutes. That isn't that most take 47 minutes but the average time is 47 minutes and that's been brought down from 52 minutes. So 5 years ago the average time taken to commute to work, was almost an hour.
If not many people had a long commute then the average would be a lot lower, but it's the long commutes that takes the average up.
I'd also argue that the majority are in London as people will often catch the tube. Most commuting time will be motorway / cross country train trips.

19lottie82

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

do you have a figure to compare your 'not many' to?

However many people live in the UK outside of London

jfh7gwa

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

Most commuting time will be motorway / cross country train trips.

That matches my experience, and knowledge of my family members' commutes, exactly.

19lottie82

jfh7gwa wrote: »

Perhaps if you've only ever been on NMW jobs or known people on NMW type wages, you'd have such a narrow view?

No. I'm not. I'm a 29 year old graduate with a good job and a good salary. I have been working for large, multinational engineering and oil/gas companies for the last 5 years. And again, I have never, to my knowledge, had a colleague who has had to travel for 2 hours + to get to work.