Student halls - gas coming in through window from boiler flue below!

superman909

bengasman wrote: »

The test is totally irrelevant for the situation, and I guarantee you that the reading was not 0.0002 ppm. The performed test is often used for the lgsc, and only proves that the boiler is legal to use.
Poc from a legal boiler that enter the property in sufficient quantities, are still perfectly capable of killing you.
More importantly, a variety of faults that can occur between today and the next test, can send the amount of toxins produced flying up to levels that are several hundred times higher than they are now. This is the main reason that the particular test that has been done, has less meaning than the noon temperature on new year's eve.


"She", doesn't have a clue what she is on about, which is exactly par for the course in this kind of situation with this kind of organisation.
The wrong test, the wrong reading, and the wrong interpretation of it; you couldn't make it up.

ps
Your waffling on about SO2 readings doesn't help much either as it is totally pointless and only serves to divert the attention from the only essential point, which as of yet still has not been addressed at all.
If your approach in medicine will be similar to your approach of this situation, I just prey I will never be in your hands when you work for the NHS, as my chances of survival would be negligible.

I have done exactly what you told me.... What more do you want me to do? I have been in contact with the Gas Safe Register, and they are going to form a complaint against the business who dealt with this situation in the first place (i.e. the guys who carried out the tests that mean nothing in this situation, like you said) and come round to check the distance of flue from window, etc. No other tests will be done.

Obviously, as a 19 year old student, who has never even dealt with a boiler in my life, I am inevitably going to ask for advice (even if it may seem obvious to a pro like yourself). I am clever enough to realise that it is not healthy, end of. The other students who are putting up with this are obviously naive enough to think it is safe. Please cut out the student/medic remarks, it isn't getting me anywhere. I do agree that yes, I should have reread past posts/threads, and you did mention several times about phoning Gas Safe, which I have done.... And yes, I did say to this manager that I am still not happy, and again, I did say the tests weren't very relevant - the fact POC are coming into my room is dodgy enough!

The problem is getting the point through to this woman; she is determined that the boiler safe and compliant ("obviously the boiler may well be, but the actual flue gases coming into my room definitely isn't" - exactly what I told her!) , I said the flue gases should not come through, full stop, but she was having none of it. Other than Gas Safe (who said they will measure the distance of the flue from the window, etc, though I do believe the actual measurements are fine, I sort of estimated and it looks within the limits, but surely they could do something about the gas coming in?). I can't exactly live with the window shut 24/7 - yes it will be safe from keeping out the flue gases, but it isn't exactly a healthy way of life either as the room needs to be ventilated

C_Mababejive

Fire brigade...?

Mr_Ted

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Fire brigade...?

Once again another facile unhelpful comment!
Do you feel better after making such comment???

If you are not satified with the outcome from anyone you can always call the Health & Safety Executive, like someone should about some posters on this Forum!!!

superman909

Mr_Ted wrote: »

Once again another facile unhelpful comment!
Do you feel better after making such comment???

If you are not satified with the outcome from anyone you can always call the Health & Safety Executive, like someone should about some posters on this Forum!!!

Thanks, but isn't the HSE just for workplaces? Who is the most appropriate (and helpful) body to contact in this case?

Mr_Ted

superman909 wrote: »

Thanks, but isn't the HSE just for workplaces? Who is the most appropriate (and helpful) body to contact in this case?

Your accomodation, or for that matter anyones property, is a workplace for those who attend to check the, or any problem, or carry out any form of work, and H&S is about the individual also.

If you feel there is an irresponsible attitude or poor response by any organisation then give the HSE a call, they will at the minimum advise you of your next step to achieve the right result, but only if someone has failed in the correct response to the problem!

I would wait until all checks have been made, and that should include a flue gas analysis by an analyser that can read NOX & SOX as should be checked on a condensing boiler and should also be covered by the boilers maintenance manual as to what checks should be caried out!

The current legislation in respect of pluming does cover the use of plume kits to be used in cases where pluming is a nuisance, and your landlord should be responsible and have that installed if it is a nuisance.
In fact the assessment that should be carried out befiore a condensing boiler is installed does allow for a less efficient non condensing boiler to be installed if the property fails the criteria for the installation of a condensing boiler, although I have yet to see an installation where a full and proper assessment has been carried out?

Irrespective of this, and as has been mentioned numerous times and is why you are getting adverse comments, irrespective of the discomfort, you are also responsible for your own health and safety, so keep the window closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unclebulgaria

I wouldn't worry too much about what's posted on here in reply to your post, "pro's" do get frustrated when they can't directly influence the outcome of your problem, I do.
Not sure why bengasman has poo poo'd your post with regard to the reading 0.0002 as he or I aren't there to comment on the testing engineers procedure. It is very low but saying that I tested a Potterton Gold 24HE today and that came out at 0.0007 so its not impossible.
Daft question but, do you smoke?
He is right when he says that the test carried out has no relevance to your problem.
CO reading can go through the roof if the offending boiler is poorly set up at a later date.
I would expect a good run of plume kit would solve your problem but may move it elsewhere.
Keep a diary of your complaints.

Canucklehead

Hi.

Blah blah blah blah, blahhhh blah blah, blllllaaaaaahhhhhh blah blah.

Only one person thought it would be nice to see a photo.

Post one up would you? I can't stand any more blahhh blah blah.

Some people just loooooove the sound of their own keyboard.;)


GSR.

superman909

Canucklehead wrote: »

Hi.

Blah blah blah blah, blahhhh blah blah, blllllaaaaaahhhhhh blah blah.

Only one person thought it would be nice to see a photo.

Post one up would you? I can't stand any more blahhh blah blah.

Some people just loooooove the sound of their own keyboard.;)


GSR.

My room is the 3rd window up at the right - above the boiler flue which is sticking out with no guard fitted. Posted from my phone.



Edit: flue in question is 2nd one up , with no guard covering it.

jalexa

superman909 wrote: »

My room is the 3rd window up at the right - above the boiler flue which is sticking out with no guard fitted. Posted from my phone.

Thank you.

Is it the sticky out flue which you think is troubling you or the closer one?

Canucklehead

Hi.

Thanks.

I would imagine you are getting the plume from the second flue up (white/black).

As you have been told, it's all within regs. There is no requirement for a flue guard at that height.

IMO it would be best to use a plume management kit and terminate it at the external corner. The only snag there is the proximity to what looks like an extractor terminal.

Worcester flues can be angled to direct plume away to open air to help overcome problems like this. The flue below your window might be a Worcester, The others look different.

I think that's the best you could hope for.

Plan B, get them to move you to another room

GSR.