Student halls - gas coming in through window from boiler flue below!

superman909

Mr_Ted wrote: »

The 1st thing to do is close the window!!!

The 2nd is to inform the Bursar, or site manager, if its a halls of residence!!!

The 3rd, if the Bursar fails to call anyone in as an emergency is to do it yourself!!!

Hi there, I've been to see the duty manager on a couple of occasions, and now I am in process of writing an email to the manager. In the past they have dismissed it as simply "steam" and they say the flue pipe is within the safety regulations, however what are the regulations (if any) on the flue gases entering my room?

arfurrrr

superman909 wrote: »

Hi there, I've been to see the duty manager on a couple of occasions, and now I am in process of writing an email to the manager. In the past they have dismissed it as simply "steam" and they say the flue pipe is within the safety regulations, however what are the regulations (if any) on the flue gases entering my room?

SUPERMAN - PAY ATTENTION(IF YOU ARE STILL ALIVE)

POC - PRODUCTS OF COMBUSTION (FLUE GASES) ENTERING A PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELEY DANGEROUS AND RIDDOR REPORTABLE

SHUT YOUR WINDOW

RING TRANSO 0800 111999 AND TELL THEM POC ARE ENTERING THE FLAT AND THE MANAGERS HAVE SAID IT`S OK .


RING GAS SAFE 0800 408 5500 AND TELL THEM THE PROBLEM AND REQUEST A FREE URGENT INSPECTION

GET AN AUDIBLE CO ALARM

FORGET EMAILING THE MANAGER YOU MIGHT BE DEAD BY THE TIME HE RESPONDS .

UPDATE US ON HERE OR GET YOURS FRIENDS TO POST UP YOUR FUNERAL DEATILS . Please .

Also try and post a picture up .

arfurrrr

PasturesNew wrote: »

He died: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-12749049

SUPERMAN , have you read this ???? take action

bengasman

superman909 wrote: »

Sorry, I couldn't find my own thread.....

Nor did you read it when it was still current apparently.
The link to your own old thread is in this thread, so I suggest you look it up; all the answers you need are in there.

unclebulgaria

arfurrrr wrote: »

SUPERMAN - PAY ATTENTION(IF YOU ARE STILL ALIVE)

POC - PRODUCTS OF COMBUSTION (FLUE GASES) ENTERING A PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELEY DANGEROUS AND RIDDOR REPORTABLE

SHUT YOUR WINDOW

RING TRANSO 0800 111999 AND TELL THEM POC ARE ENTERING THE FLAT AND THE MANAGERS HAVE SAID IT`S OK .


RING GAS SAFE 0800 408 5500 AND TELL THEM THE PROBLEM AND REQUEST A FREE URGENT INSPECTION

GET AN AUDIBLE CO ALARM

FORGET EMAILING THE MANAGER YOU MIGHT BE DEAD BY THE TIME HE RESPONDS .

UPDATE US ON HERE OR GET YOURS FRIENDS TO POST UP YOUR FUNERAL DEATILS . Please .

Also try and post a picture up .

Arf I think you need to get your facts right before you panic everyone!
Firstly, what you see as products of combustion (POC's) may not be anything more than steam which by the way you probably wouldn't even notice in the summer months.
Secondly, a flue too close to a window is NOT always immediately dangerous or at risk! A background CO check needs to be carried out with the window open to see if the flue is actually pumping anything into the room from that window. If after 15 mins of continuous running the limits (10ppm within the room) are not reached then its safe to say you are not at risk. It then becomes Not To Current Standards if it is too close.
Thirdly, (is that a real word?) If the boiler is tested with a flue gas analyser and the CO levels are ok its very unlikely that you will be poisoned anyway.
Nine out of ten times anything you smell or see isn't a cause to worry unnecessarily, If you're at Uni you're clever enough to shut the window and you have a legal right to request a free Gas Safety Inspection from Gas Safe and they will tell you if you are at risk and take any action needed to remedy the situation.
If you call the emergency number for National Grid and they come to look there's a very good chance they'll turn it off anyway safe or not as their remit says that if the situation appears suspect then cap the meter and leave.
Basically DON'T panic. Shut the window and call Gas Safe for a free inspection.
A C.O. monitor is always a good idea if you have any carbon fuel burning appliance.

C_Mababejive

arfurrrr wrote: »

SUPERMAN - PAY ATTENTION(IF YOU ARE STILL ALIVE)

POC - PRODUCTS OF COMBUSTION (FLUE GASES) ENTERING A PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELEY DANGEROUS AND RIDDOR REPORTABLE

SHUT YOUR WINDOW

RING TRANSO 0800 111999 AND TELL THEM POC ARE ENTERING THE FLAT AND THE MANAGERS HAVE SAID IT`S OK .


RING GAS SAFE 0800 408 5500 AND TELL THEM THE PROBLEM AND REQUEST A FREE URGENT INSPECTION

GET AN AUDIBLE CO ALARM

FORGET EMAILING THE MANAGER YOU MIGHT BE DEAD BY THE TIME HE RESPONDS .

UPDATE US ON HERE OR GET YOURS FRIENDS TO POST UP YOUR FUNERAL DEATILS . Please .

Also try and post a picture up .

Pish and Tosh...

Products of combustion usually constitute Carbon Dioxide and water vapour.

Bearing in mind that the boiler is exhausting via a fanned flue, most if not all of this is being propelled clear of the building,the quantity of potential re-entry is minimal.

As long as the appliance has been fitted to standard there is very little to worry about.

CO detectors are notoriously problematic and cannot always be relied upon. Additionally the do not detect CO2,H2O or CH4.

2sides2everystory

C_Mababejive wrote:

Pish and Tosh...

How dare you come on here and ridicule the most sensible post on the thread?

Go back to school, why don't you?

If the thing is noisy and fumes are entering the flat then clearly it is not sited correctly and the fan is not maintained to the extent it is noisy which in turn suggests that the burner may not have been maintained either.

Steam and CO2 are odourless and unlikely to cause anyone to complain that they are "fumes". Incomplete combustion is very likely to cause "fumes" of the type someone would complain about. Whilst potential fatal CO ingress is also odourless, the other products of incomplete combustion generally are not and this is why the OP must continue to follow his original instinct and act urgently just as arfurrr has said.

I really do not understand how you can faff about with this kind of safety issue.

bengasman

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Bearing in mind that the boiler is exhausting via a fanned flue, most if not all of this is being propelled clear of the building,the quantity of potential re-entry is minimal.

Pish and Tosh.

C_Mababejive wrote: »

As long as the appliance has been fitted to standard there is very little to worry about.

Pish and Tosh.

C_Mababejive wrote: »

CO detectors are notoriously problematic and cannot always be relied upon. Additionally the do not detect CO2,H2O or CH4.

Pish and Tosh.

arfurrrr

unclebulgaria wrote: »

Arf I think you need to get your facts right before you panic everyone!
Firstly, what you see as products of combustion (POC's) may not be anything more than steam

and thats where I am going to stop you , as you have no idea .

:rotfl:

arfurrrr

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Pish and Tosh...

Products of combustion usually constitute Carbon Dioxide and water vapour.

Bearing in mind that the boiler is exhausting via a fanned flue, most if not all of this is being propelled clear of the building,the quantity of potential re-entry is minimal.

As long as the appliance has been fitted to standard there is very little to worry about.

CO detectors are notoriously problematic and cannot always be relied upon. Additionally the do not detect CO2,H2O or CH4.

This was already posted up earlier -

This guy died - someone fitted a gas valve and didn`t set it up correctly
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-12749049