Parking Charge Notices - Town & City Parking (Asda)

treeboa

im getting bored waiting, had the waste paper sticker on vehicle, the silly claim via mail which says they have confirmed what i have thought for years - that i own the vehicle

kevymac

Got one today for 'parking' in CO-OP Helensburgh - absolutely no intention to pay this invoice. A photograph of my car driving (just driving, maybe not even CO-OP as there are no obvious landmarks etc) in and out (out in the pitch black 5 hours later..).....Maybe I didn't park and just drove round all day?...........They also, like treeboa, confirmed me as the Registered Keeper - doesn't mean I was driving and I have no obligation to disclose who was...........I'm ignoring this letter, then the following 2 or 3, before I ignore what I am expecting to be the last one threatening Court Action...They cant take you to Court as we had no binding contract agreement.........any way that's £45 saved, and if I didn't pay before 15 Feb then thats £90.......I feel in the money.......Wasn't even shopping in Co-op...I mean whoever had my car didn't go into Co-op.........lol

taffy056

kevymac wrote: »

Got one today for 'parking' in CO-OP Helensburgh - absolutely no intention to pay this invoice. A photograph of my car driving (just driving, maybe not even CO-OP as there are no obvious landmarks etc) in and out (out in the pitch black 5 hours later..).....Maybe I didn't park and just drove round all day?...........They also, like treeboa, confirmed me as the Registered Keeper - doesn't mean I was driving and I have no obligation to disclose who was...........I'm ignoring this letter, then the following 2 or 3, before I ignore what I am expecting to be the last one threatening Court Action...They cant take you to Court as we had no binding contract agreement.........any way that's £45 saved, and if I didn't pay before 15 Feb then thats £90.......I feel in the money.......Wasn't even shopping in Co-op...I mean whoever had my car didn't go into Co-op.........lol

Please feel free to complain to the COOP head man about it

Co-op
Peter Marks
[EMAIL="peter.marks@co-operative.coop"]peter.marks@co-operative.coop[/EMAIL]

HO87

A few weeks ago while returning HO87 Jnr Mk 3 to Uni after his Christmas break we stopped in the car park of Sainsburys in Tamworth to get some sandwiches. As we sat in the car to eat them I espied PPC signs and a quick check revealed that they were from ECP. I then notice a number of hi-viz clad personnel seemingly checking vehicles parked in the disabled spaces.

As I watched them I realised that their hi-viz coats bore a different logo to ECP's and as one of them got closer I realised that the logo was that of TCP. ECP signs but TCP staff? Had ECP just taken over from TCP or vice versa? Anyway, a conversation with one of the guys quickly confirmed that they were indeed from TCP - and there were four of them. Three I could see, two males and a female, and a fourth was pointed out to me some distance away.

This poor garrulous fellow went onto to explain that they were actually employed to marshal Sainsburys car park - access is quite narrow since the entrance was remodelled a few years ago and it can get very busy.

I asked how things worked with ECP managing the car park but them being from TCP. He explained that if they spotted any "offences" they called "the guy from ECP" and he came down and issued "fines". They had been specifically told to concentrate on the disabled spaces and to cars parking outside bays. Apparently "the man from TCP" issued between 8 and 10 tickets a day as a result of their spotting for him.

A quick re-education of the chap from TCP left him running off to his colleagues telling that the tickets were not legal and to get back to marshaling cars! Such had been the level of his training!

taffy056

So in other words sainsbury allows harrassment of about 10 of their customers a day, so take that over a year and you got about 3500 customers alienated by sainsbury. What other business can afford to do that ? The arrogance of big businesses are breathtaking at times! And if you do this UK wide you probably have well over 100k invoices from one source.

The_Slithy_Tove

kevymac wrote: »

Wasn't even shopping in Co-op...I mean whoever had my car didn't go into Co-op.........lol

If you, er, I mean the driver , weren't in the Co-op, why did you/they park in their car park? While I have absolutely no truck with the scum of the earth that are the parking companies, and their extremely dodgy practices, they only thrive because establishments like the Co-op don't want their car parks (which cost them money) used as general parking for all and sundry. If people played by the (spirit, if not the letter) of the rules, there would be no need for these scamsters.

Having said that, though, my advice is still to ignore all their crap, as you are doing .

TrickyWicky

taffy056 wrote: »

So in other words sainsbury allows harrassment of about 10 of their customers a day, so take that over a year and you got about 3500 customers alienated by sainsbury. What other business can afford to do that ? The arrogance of big businesses are breathtaking at times! And if you do this UK wide you probably have well over 100k invoices from one source.

Yes but consider this: Sainsburys are doing, so are Tesco, So are Morrisons etc.

So you might be alienated from Sainsburys.. but remember Tescos might alienate their customers too. Customers will just jump from one to another. To the supermarkets its of little concern because they'll get customers from the other supermarkets who are also at it.

give_them_FA

Very true. So the first supermarket with the nous to boot out its PPC will collect all the disgruntled customers from the others!

taffy056

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Yes but consider this: Sainsburys are doing, so are Tesco, So are Morrisons etc.

So you might be alienated from Sainsburys.. but remember Tescos might alienate their customers too. Customers will just jump from one to another. To the supermarkets its of little concern because they'll get customers from the other supermarkets who are also at it.

Yes and you got to consider the fact that there are no PPCs in my local ASDA and Tesco, but go into Swansea and Llanelli there are as well as Sainsbury, my local Morrisons has none that I have seen even though the Liberty Stadium is next to it and 20k go to watch the footy there, though go to Neath and they have one there.

There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason for them being in certain places but not in others, the ones I mentioned above with a PPC in them are in retail parks with little or no other reason for going there but to shop, hardly any housing around them, or are they in logical places to dump a car in all day as there are park and rides there that are easier frankly to get into the city centre.

TrickyWicky

Thing is though taffy, you say there is no reason for a PPC to be in some of their car parks but the supermarkets can do as they please. It's their land, their decision and ultimately their right not to disclose why they're using a PPC.

There are always reasons why things are done, they're not immediately obvious but there are always reasons there somewhere. It may not even be to do with the store itself, it may be that the PPC has negotiated those particular stores as part of its agreement and the supermarket just think "what the hell" and give it to them.

Having had numerous jobs in parking, nothing is ever as it seems, there are always underlying non straight forward reasons and always some odd excuse or explanation to explain it. Parking is one of those captive industries where anything goes and there is naff all any of us can do about it.