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  • john539
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    GMbabies wrote: »
    Things to come...

    zine.openrightsgroup.org/features/2012/looking-for-a-job-goes-orwellian
    They can't get people to give up their rights.
  • MissSarah1972
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    edited 23 September 2012 at 4:44PM
    Is this website going to be ALL THE JOBS advertised in the whole of the UK? By that I mean Reed, Monster, CIMA Jobs, Caterer, Indeed, Hays, Robery Half (all agencies) Gumtree, CV Library etc?

    If not and it's just JCP jobs it will be a waste of time. I only find the odd 1 or 2 at a push a month on there and still these are junior jobs who wont consider me.
  • donnajunkie
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    GMbabies wrote: »
    Things to come...



    zine.openrightsgroup.org/features/2012/looking-for-a-job-goes-orwellian
    how can they obligate people to be registered on a website and use it regularly when they may not have access to the net? also for dwp to have access to all of your applications would mean that all jobs would have to be applied for through the website. would all advertising employers want to go along with this?
    they also would not have time to look through everything that each person does.
  • john539
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    edited 23 September 2012 at 7:14PM
    Is this website going to be ALL THE JOBS advertised in the whole of the UK? By that I mean Reed, Monster, CIMA Jobs, Caterer, Indeed, Hays, Robery Half (all agencies) Gumtree, CV Library etc?

    If not and it's just JCP jobs it will be a waste of time. I only find the odd 1 or 2 at a push a month on there and still these are junior jobs who wont consider me.
    What it will be is in its infancy & still being cobbled together.

    They want Universal Credit to be handled online by default.

    Similiarly they will try to push Jobcentre functions online, update the Jobcentre jobs website, allow some sort of contact between JC+ advisors & customers via the website.

    The Work Programme was meant to be a personalised service matching people to jobs.

    Someone has had a brainwave to create Universal Job Match or DWP has been sold the idea by private company, which will just do same as any job website searching on location, key words etc.

    It will just be another glorified job board.

    I can't see compulsion happening or them trying to monitor people's job applications, as that would go against privacy & data protection law, unless those people agree & have given informed consent which they can withdraw at anytime.
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  • john539 wrote: »
    What it will be is in its infancy & still being cobbled together.

    They want Universal Credit to be handled online by default.

    Similiarly they will try to push Jobcentre functions online, update the Jobcentre jobs website, allow some sort of contact between JC+ advisors & customers via the website.

    The Work Programme was meant to be a personalised service matching people to jobs.

    Someone has had a brainwave to create Universal Job Match or DWP has been sold the idea by private company, which will just do same as any job website searching on location, key words etc.

    It will just be another glorified job board.

    I can't see compulsion happening or them trying to monitor people's job applications unless those people agree & have given informed consent which they can withdraw at anytime.
    I have no experience on the work programme yet but my time looms nearer but a mate of mine is on it and it does not match anyone to any jobs at all.

    The Job centre staff that you sign with have no access to the net to check jobs you apply for so I dont see how this will work at all.
  • donnajunkie
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    john539 wrote: »

    The Work Programme was meant to be a personalised service matching people to jobs.

    Someone has had a brainwave to create Universal Job Match or DWP has been sold the idea by private company, which will just do same as any job website searching on location, key words etc.

    It will just be another glorified job board.

    I can't see compulsion happening or them trying to monitor people's job applications, as that would go against privacy & data protection law, unless those people agree & have given informed consent which they can withdraw at anytime.
    .
    my provider has a jobs website were they upload your cv and it matches you to jobs. you then have to look at each job and either apply for it or reject it. if you apply it is recorded on your profile that you applied for it and when. if you reject it that is also recorded and you must type a reason why you rejected it. i always just put not qualified. some plonkers go into detail. they dont see your applications. they just see who you applied to and when. i dont mind it as it saves alot of time jobsearching and it is useful as evidence of what i have done if any jobsworth ever tries to dispute it at the jobcentre.
  • donnajunkie
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    The Job centre staff that you sign with have no access to the net to check jobs you apply for so I dont see how this will work at all.
    my work programme adviser barely has time to check their job site to see if i have done anything on it. she certainly doesnt have time to go through each job or do something like look at each application i have done. so the jobcentre wont have time either unless they take on loads of staff.
  • my work programme adviser barely has time to check their job site to see if i have done anything on it. she certainly doesnt have time to go through each job or do something like look at each application i have done. so the jobcentre wont have time either unless they take on loads of staff.
    I think therefore it can't be true, can it? The new website? After all they can't just want you to apply for jobs advertised on their site and I am sure employers and agencies wont want a third party to access to people applying unless the job centre are actually going to do something about companies who wont interview you cause you are unemployed.
  • [STRIKE]Workfare[/STRIKE] - see #19 & #21 from a couple of months ago .. .. the Work Programme was around in Maggie Thatchers day - they called it YTS for young people and ETS for adults. Its just a~n~other recycled political policy.

    As for the Work Programme under UC if you see Hansard 11 Sep 2012 : Column 150 you will see that the CONdems even refused to publish information about the Work programme under UC .. .. and .. .. refused Labour’s freedom of information request to release the business case for universal credit.

    Best of luck with that then !
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  • [STRIKE]Workfare[/STRIKE] - see #19 & #21 from a couple of months ago .. .. the Work Programme was around in Maggie Thatchers day - they called it YTS for young people and ETS for adults. Its just a~n~other recycled political policy.

    As for the Work Programme under UC if you see Hansard 11 Sep 2012 : Column 150 you will see that the CONdems even refused to publish information about the Work programme under UC .. .. and .. .. refused Labour’s freedom of information request to release the business case for universal credit.

    Best of luck with that then !
    The Work Programme is the same as the YTS?? :rotfl::rotfl:
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