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LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

part of getting people a job is putting them in the best position possible to get a job. that can mean training courses.
as it seems there are some courses available from your provider afterall i suspect they are being decent and allowing you to stick to the type of work you want to do rather than saying how about training to do retail or training to do care work etc.
if doing advanced excel is important to you have you tried contacting local colleges etc yourself?

I do not need to be 'put in the best positon possible to get a job' and you know they can not do that! I had a job, was made redundant. I did nothing wrong and do not need training to do a job I have been doing for 20 years.

Advanced Excel is not important to me at all and I have never needed to be to that level in all my 20 years in accounts I was just using it as am example. Erm I am looking for work in retail and I do not need training for that either as I was an asst supervisor when I was 18 for House Of Fraser.

I do not need to contact anyone as the provider is meant to be helping me not the other way round. Maybe I sould do their job?

I need people not to keep saying 'you have too much experience', 'you have no industry specific experience' (like law firm accounts or media etc), or 'you have been out of work a while and we won't nterview you'. This is what I don't need and what I do need is recruiters who read ALL CV's and they don't, give me a fair chance, interviews etc.

The WP like we keep re hashing all the time here can NOT get you an interview and can NOT get you a job! Fact!

I have been on the WP 10 mths now and no better off than I was before.

And just to add if your CV isn't read it wouldn't matter if you had a degree no one would know!

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

Erm I am looking for work in retail and I do not need training for that either as I was an asst supervisor when I was 18 for House Of Fraser.

do you actually have qualifications in retail? the fact you have worked in retail wont exempt you from being pushed to doing any courses related to it that you havent already done.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

I do not need to contact anyone as the provider is meant to be helping me not the other way round. Maybe I sould do their job?

being on the work programme doesnt exempt you from doing things for yourself. i strongly advise you to not let anyone at the jobcentre or at the provider know your view on this as they wont be impressed.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

do you actually have qualifications in retail? the fact you have worked in retail wont exempt you from being pushed to doing any courses related to it that you havent already done.

LOL Yeah cause all the women on the tills in ASDA have retail qualifications! Hahaha!

What training courses do you need for retail? Hmmm - how to blip a bar code? LOL When I worked in retail there were no bar codes!

I have an RSA Diploma in Retail Distribution and I am telling you I wont be doing any courses in retail as I do not want to work in retail. They will not MAKE me do anything believe me.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

I need people not to keep saying 'you have too much experience', 'you have no industry specific experience' (like law firm accounts or media etc), or 'you have been out of work a while and we won't nterview you'. This is what I don't need and what I do need is recruiters who read ALL CV's and they don't, give me a fair chance, interviews etc.

yes i sympathise with this. employers dont want to spend anytime training people. that is why there are no apprenticeships.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

yes i sympathise with this. employers dont want to spend anytime training people. that is why there are no apprenticeships.

Training them to do what? Accounts and invoices are the same no matter what industry you are in! Who is looking for an apprenticeship? I am not.

You can get a job as a school leaver if you want to go into accounts. My old just took someone on as a 1st jobber. They expect them to stay a year.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

LOL Yeah cause all the women on the tills in ASDA have retail qualifications! Hahaha!

What training courses do you need for retail? Hmmm - how to blip a bar code? LOL When I worked in retail there were no bar codes!

I have an RSA Diploma in Retail Distribution and I am telling you I wont be doing any courses in retail as I do not want to work in retail. They will not MAKE me do anything believe me.

i am not saying people need to do a course to work in retail. i am saying if there are courses out there then some advisors would push people to do them if they havent already got the qualification. they will say it will give you an advantage over people who dont have the qualification.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

i am not saying people need to do a course to work in retail. i am saying if there are courses out there then some advisors would push people to do them if they havent already got the qualification. they will say it will give you an advantage over people who dont have the qualification.

Qualifications mean nothing if you have no current experience and for someone who has worked in accounts for 20 years against someone from retail with 20 years exp I know who they would interview.

There is no such thing as an advantage as I can tell you no one I worked with in my team had accountancy qualifications. Only the Financial Director was fully qualified and so he should be on £100k a year.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

Training them to do what? Accounts and invoices are the same no matter what industry you are in! Who is looking for an apprenticeship? I am not.

You can get a job as a school leaver if you want to go into accounts. My old just took someone on as a 1st jobber. They expect them to stay a year.

there will no doubt be aspects to the job at a particular company that you would need to be trained in. while you know most of the job you may not know everything. employers often want people that already know everything.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

there will no doubt be aspects to the job at a particular company that you would need to be trained in. while you know most of the job you may not know everything. employers often want people that already know everything.

I have never had any training at any job. Was shown how to put 1 invoice on at my last job by a part timer and the rest I worked out alone.

Not all jobs give training.

Every company has a different way of doing things but even from the same industry using the same accounts package you wont know the job at all till you get there and do it.