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wantsajob

EndlessStruggle wrote: »

He then sadly got made redundant as did a lot of the staff in their office, every few months the staff seem to change!

Same story for over 90% of jobs out there. Don't meet the targets set and you're out of there. That's why most sales people are very aggressive and skilful at getting you to buy things, the crap ones just don't last. I suspect his nice guy attitude meant he wasn't getting the results required, or sanctioning enough people.

looby75

LadyMissA wrote: »

Wrong again. I have been told that we can't get our travel till 11am but I am exempt from that. How did I manage that? I spoke up!! My travel is going to be paid out to me at 9,15am and I can go home and other have to stay to do a job search till it gets to 11am. Not fair at all as those who come in at 10.30 will probably not have to stay at all and those at 9 or 9.15 etc will have to stay near on 1h 45 mins and me...........well I just go home

I'm sure when the others see you getting your travel then going home a few more will speak up too. It's a stupid rule, I'm so pleased my WP provider is more reasonable than that.

LadyMissA

looby75 wrote: »

I'm sure when the others see you getting your travel then going home a few more will speak up too. It's a stupid rule, I'm so pleased my WP provider is more reasonable than that.

I doubt they will or they would have already. I do not concern myself with what anyone else is doing. If it was 'law' I would have just been told 'no you have to stay'

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

Wrong again. I have been told that we can't get our travel till 11am but I am exempt from that. How did I manage that? I spoke up!! My travel is going to be paid out to me at 9,15am and I can go home and other have to stay to do a job search till it gets to 11am. Not fair at all as those who come in at 10.30 will probably not have to stay at all and those at 9 or 9.15 etc will have to stay near on 1h 45 mins and me...........well I just go home

well thats good but its about making a good judgement coz get it wrong and you could be in the sh*t. sometimes it can be always right to speak up, sometimes it can be right to never speak up and sometimes it can be a mixture of speaking up sometimes and not other times. the one time i told mine exactly what i thought it provoked a negative reaction.
last week we talked about me doing training courses but she didnt print out my action plan as she normally does. so now i dont know if she has put doing training courses as mandatory on my action plan. she only told me i have to enquire about it and let her know. what if i decide its not right for me and she has put it as mandatory? i could end up being refered for a sanction.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

well thats good but its about making a good judgement coz get it wrong and you could be in the sh*t. sometimes it can be always right to speak up, sometimes it can be right to never speak up and sometimes it can be a mixture of speaking up sometimes and not other times. the one time i told mine exactly what i thought it provoked a negative reaction.
last week we talked about me doing training courses but she didnt print out my action plan as she normally does. so now i dont know if she has put doing training courses as mandatory on my action plan. she only told me i have to enquire about it and let her know. what if i decide its not right for me and she has put it as mandatory? i could end up being refered for a sanction.

If I had 'got it wrong' and I was made to stay to do a job search in order to get my money then I would have asked them to prove it was in my agrement ever since August 2011 then I would have put in a formal complaint where they have not done the stuff they said they would on the action plan and that they have given me no help to get a job in 10 months!

If you never signed the plan its not agreed so there.

It is always right to speak up in my opinion.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

If I had 'got it wrong' and I was made to stay to do a job search in order to get my money then I would have asked them to prove it was in my agrement ever since August 2011 then I would have put in a formal complaint where they have not done the stuff they said they would on the action plan and that they have given me no help to get a job in 10 months!

If you never signed the plan its not agreed so there.

It is always right to speak up in my opinion.

hopefully you are right because like i said to her if it means i have to give up my voluntary work then i dont want to do it. afterall it is supposed to compliment the voluntary work as it is related. another course is pointless due to health reasons. i told her but she wouldnt accept it.
as far as speaking up goes i agree in principal.
ps i tried to look at the training centres website and it got blocked by my security due to it being infected by a trojan. so not a good sign. i emailed them to tell them but they havent replied to say yes we are aware of it or thanks for letting us know.

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

hopefully you are right because like i said to her if it means i have to give up my voluntary work then i dont want to do it. afterall it is supposed to compliment the voluntary work as it is related. another course is pointless due to health reasons. i told her but she wouldnt accept it.
as far as speaking up goes i agree in principal.
ps i tried to look at the training centres website and it got blocked by my security due to it being infected by a trojan. so not a good sign. i emailed them to tell them but they havent replied to say yes we are aware of it or thanks for letting us know.

Well why did you not ask for the action plan? Surely now this has got you a bit worried?

If you can't do some things due to a health issue and they know about it have some guts and put in a formal complaint or suck it up......sorry.

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

Well why did you not ask for the action plan? Surely now this has got you a bit worried?

If you can't do some things due to a health issue and they know about it have some guts and put in a formal complaint or suck it up......sorry.

i didnt ask for it because it didnt occur to me that there maybe a potential issue until i was out of the door.
regarding the health issue i havent had a seizure for a while so she says its controlled and therfore no risk. however i know there are no guarantees and i also know employers wouldnt take the risk when they have many perfectly healthy people to choose from. if you were an employer would you take a chance on someone with epilepsy on a construction site?

LadyMissA

donnajunkie wrote: »

i didnt ask for it because it didnt occur to me that there maybe a potential issue until i was out of the door.
regarding the health issue i havent had a seizure for a while so she says its controlled and therfore no risk. however i know there are no guarantees and i also know employers wouldnt take the risk when they have many perfectly healthy people to choose from. if you were an employer would you take a chance on someone with epilepsy on a construction site?

Well I am sure they would even get the insurance for you, would they on a construction site?

donnajunkie

LadyMissA wrote: »

Well I am sure they would even get the insurance for you, would they on a construction site?

thats what i think. so that is why it seems pointless to get a cscs card.