Jobseekers Allowance stopped

thesim

'EXCUSE' 'RESPONSIBILITY', 'ACT LIKE AN ADULT' 'YOUR RESPONSIBILITY' It's the sort of words a strict unloving parent would use to their naughty child. Pathetic!

Ahaha that made me laugh so hard. So what would a loving parent say? You have come out with excuses...you blamed the tories because "they are the government". You ARENT acting like an adult. And it IS your responsibilty.

I dont know anyone who wouldnt turn to their child and tell them to shoulder some responsibility. You wont get anywhere in life if you dont take responsibility for you actions. If organisation is your downfall then thats no excuse. Get a diary and carry it with you. Ask questions even when you think you know the answer. READ THE PAPERWORK! You cannot go through life with this attitude. You cannot expect to be ok to deal with benefits with this attitude. You need to be able to ask the most obvious questions. I've had huge issues this year with JSA and I have all my paperwork, I've had it stamped, signed. I've even gone so far as to get a written statement from the advisor I signed off from JSA with, just in case there were any issues. I have the P45 from Jsa but I still have that statement.
Organisation is key.

Benefits are complicated, I've spent this year dealing with benefits but I've always asked questions, even when I'm sure, even when I have it in writing, and I always make them put a note on the system.

saintjammyswine

How on earth did you manage in work OP? Your reliance on Dyslexia as an excuse is an insult to the tens of thousands who have worked hard to overcome this condition. For example my partner is dyslexic, she works harder on written work than any of her colleagues to achieve the same outcome but does this accepting it as something she has to do. Get over yourself, you screwed up and are now facing the consequences.

DCFC79

amco35 wrote: »

I do believe the advisor was not clear. (does this mean i don't take responsibility or that i blame her?) It was down to you to ask her to be clear.

And I do believe having dyslexia put me at a disadvantage. (does this mean I am using it as an excuse?) Im pretty sure there are job seekers (past ones and current job seekers) who have dyslexia(and who dont use it as an exscuse) and manage with being on jsa or have found a job.

I do believe that it is unjust to take 3 weeks money away from me because of a genuine mistake. Genuine mistake or not you still didnt turn up for the appointment.


DCFC79- You said I need to take responsibility for missing the appointments and learn from the error.
What do you mean by take responsibility? Well accept the fact you didnt turn up for the appointment and make sure you turn up on time for future appointments.

Just a question but if you were in a job and you didnt turn up for work 1 day would you still think the employer was being hard nosed on you because you have dyslexia.

What do you mean by learn from the error? If your not sure about anything you ask or you call the number given to you.

It's not like I can prevent mistakes from happening.

Well you can try to prevent them from happening not as often or not happen at all.

The ConDems are the same as the TORIES in my opinion.
How am I blaming the Government for missing an appointment? I am blaming the Government for the hard-nosed attitude they take when someone genuinly misses a sign on date. When on jsa you have to have good timekeeping so you turn up on time to sign on.

Just a few points

skintandscared_2

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Is there anyone in the country who doesn't know signing on is every 2 weeks?

Also for a dyslexic person your posts are more literate than most on these boards.

I've never signed on in my life but even I know it's every 2 weeks

OP, you are dyslexic, not illiterate. Even if the Jobcentre person spoke at a million miles an hour (they're rather busy at the moment) you were given ALL the relevant information you needed. Why do you think they give these leaflets out?!

Do you honestly think there is enough money just floating about in that Tory bank account to pay everyone regardless of whether they sign on or not? It's not much to ask to receive money - just turn up! I'm struggling to see how it's anyone's fault but yours that you didn't manage to do that. And how did it take you 3 weeks to notice?!

Linda32

I was wondering how it took three weeks to notice as well. It would take me about 3 hours to notice.

Anyway, I've got to ask, OP have you managed to restart your claim for JSA?

Bluemeanie_2

I can't help but feel some compassion for the OP. And as a relatively new person to these threads I can't believe how nasty the attitude towards it has been. Totally unnecessary and mean. OP asked a question and asked if it could be discrimination and wanted to debate the point. Nothing wrong with telling the truth or even bluntness, and OP and others should remember when something is written down, it hard to know how to take it, as you cannot gauge tone, body language etc. However no need to been nasty about someone's dyslexia etc.

If you have always worked it can be hard to know about benefits and how to claim. I am at risk of redundancy and have had to come on here for advice on what to do if I lose my job on the benefits board. My family, friends and me have always worked. None of us have been in the situation of being unemployed (thankfully). So I had no one I could ask personally. If I found myself at the job centre with the advisor droning on I would probably switch off.

Not the crime of the century really is it? The OP made a mistake and is looking for a way out of. Fair play, if you don't ask, you don't get. No need to be so nasty. Really no need at all. Nothing wrong with the truth and bluntness. But no need for nastiness. I thought the first forum rule was to be nice.

Vincent_Buenisedes

Bluemeanie wrote: »

I can't help but feel some compassion for the OP. And as a relatively new person to these threads I can't believe how nasty the attitude towards it has been. Totally unnecessary and mean. OP asked a question and asked if it could be discrimination and wanted to debate the point. Nothing wrong with telling the truth or even bluntness, and OP and others should remember when something is written down, it hard to know how to take it, as you cannot gauge tone, body language etc. However no need to been nasty about someone's dyslexia etc.

If you have always worked it can be hard to know about benefits and how to claim. I am at risk of redundancy and have had to come on here for advice on what to do if I lose my job on the benefits board. My family, friends and me have always worked. None of us have been in the situation of being unemployed (thankfully). So I had no one I could ask personally. If I found myself at the job centre with the advisor droning on I would probably switch off.

Not the crime of the century really is it? The OP made a mistake and is looking for a way out of. Fair play, if you don't ask, you don't get. No need to be so nasty. Really no need at all. Nothing wrong with the truth and bluntness. But no need for nastiness. I thought the first forum rule was to be nice.

To be fair to MSE, it's usally the same group of posters trawling this and the benefits boards for unfortunate souls to pester for even daring to consider claiming benefits. They know who they are:cool:

SarEl

Bluemeanie wrote: »

I can't help but feel some compassion for the OP. And as a relatively new person to these threads I can't believe how nasty the attitude towards it has been. Totally unnecessary and mean. OP asked a question and asked if it could be discrimination and wanted to debate the point. Nothing wrong with telling the truth or even bluntness, and OP and others should remember when something is written down, it hard to know how to take it, as you cannot gauge tone, body language etc. However no need to been nasty about someone's dyslexia etc.

If you have always worked it can be hard to know about benefits and how to claim. I am at risk of redundancy and have had to come on here for advice on what to do if I lose my job on the benefits board. My family, friends and me have always worked. None of us have been in the situation of being unemployed (thankfully). So I had no one I could ask personally. If I found myself at the job centre with the advisor droning on I would probably switch off.

Not the crime of the century really is it? The OP made a mistake and is looking for a way out of. Fair play, if you don't ask, you don't get. No need to be so nasty. Really no need at all. Nothing wrong with the truth and bluntness. But no need for nastiness. I thought the first forum rule was to be nice.

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

To be fair to MSE, it's usally the same group of posters trawling this and the benefits boards for unfortunate souls to pester for even daring to consider claiming benefits. They know who they are:cool:

Rubbish. The OP started the nastiness and started it by post # 3 on the thread!

Question in post#1 from the OP - Is this discrimination?
Answer in post #2 - No it isn't...

OP launches into you are mean and nasty to me. Nobody had been mean or nasty - just answered the question. The OP then launched into everyone in sight who didn't agree with her. For goodness sake, she even launched into LadyMissA - who is long term unemployed herself, and yes, sometimes we think she could do herself a few more favours, but she's probably the most pro-unemployed person on the board!!!! If you are going to pick a fight with someone on these threads about "compassion" for the unemployed, LadyMissA is probably the least likely person to pick!

You don't sign on you don't get your benefits - it's a pretty simple equation that most everbody understands. If you pick fights because you don't get the advice you want to get, well expect not to get a lot of sympathy.

LisaB85

Bluemeanie wrote: »

Not the crime of the century really is it? The OP made a mistake and is looking for a way out of. Fair play, if you don't ask, you don't get. No need to be so nasty. Really no need at all. Nothing wrong with the truth and bluntness. But no need for nastiness. I thought the first forum rule was to be nice.

Nobody was 'nasty' until the OP started going off on one at everyone who told her what you just said, she made a mistake and needs to make a new claim.

Nobody lied to her they told her the truth, it is not discrimination and the jobcentre did nothing wrong.

Arg

Apart from cheating someone out of their money, again.