Suspend from my duties

hello2007

Firefox1975 wrote: »

Well if you were my employee I would get rid of
I wil deal with it on my own.

SarEl

You simply aren't getting it. This isn't siding against you - it's telling you like it is. I know very well that you can claim discrimination from before day one actually. But claiming and winning is something totally and utterly different.

In discrimination claims you must exhaust the employers procudure in your grievance before you can make a claim; you must then prove to the satisfaction of a tribunal that discrimination may have taken place before they will even shift to whether the employer did discriminate or not. Anyone who says they have a good case either has irrefutable proof with written evidence and multiple witnesses of discrimination occuring over a lengthy period of time and having exhausted a full grievance and appeal procedure - or else they have no a clue what they are doing. Most people fall into the latter category which is why only a small percentage of cases win.

You have within a short period of time submitted mutiple grievances on multiple issues, and it would appear that you didn't officially mention half of them until after you were suspended. Raising grievance after suspension is like plugging the hole in the barrel after all the wine has leaked on to the floor. Nobody (and that includes tribunals) believe grievances that only suddenly and conventiently crop up just as you get suspended. It doesn't matter whether they are true or not - they are simply too convenient. And having a catalogue of complaints within three months isn't going to help you - as I told you before, no employee is going to risk their employment for you, and any former employer is a witness with a grudge and therefore unreliable; and it is going to look like you are simply concocting things.

This "nightmare" - and it seems odd that you mentioned the payslips in what, two or three different threads you have started on the matter, but not once mentioned the "more serious matters" - will certainly be over soon. They are almost certainly going to dismiss you. But take this to court and I promise you - the nightmare is only just starting. You really don't have a clue. I won't take a case that isn't solid to court - and I know all the in's and out's, and I am tough as nails when it gets down to it because I have to be. If you think that not getting some payslips is a nightmare, then you have no idea what a tribunal will be.

tomjonesrules

hello2007 wrote: »

I will sort myself out

I think that might be a good idea!

hello2007

SarEl wrote: »

You simply aren't getting it. This isn't siding against you - it's telling you like it is. I know very well that you can claim discrimination from before day one actually. But claiming and winning is something totally and utterly different.

In discrimination claims you must exhaust the employers procudure in your grievance before you can make a claim; you must then prove to the satisfaction of a tribunal that discrimination may have taken place before they will even shift to whether the employer did discriminate or not. Anyone who says they have a good case either has irrefutable proof with written evidence and multiple witnesses of discrimination occuring over a lengthy period of time and having exhausted a full grievance and appeal procedure - or else they have no a clue what they are doing. Most people fall into the latter category which is why only a small percentage of cases win.

You have within a short period of time submitted mutiple grievances on multiple issues, and it would appear that you didn't officially mention half of them until after you were suspended. Raising grievance after suspension is like plugging the hole in the bareel after all the win has leaked on to the floor. Nobody (and that includes tribunals) believe grievances that only suddenly and conventiently crop up just as you get suspended. It doesn't matter whether they are true or not - they are simply too convenient. And having a catalogue of complaints within three months isn't going to help you - as I told you before, no employee is going to risk their employment for you, and any former employer is a witness with a grudge and therefore unreliable; and it is going to look like you are simply concocting things.

This "nightmare" - and it seems odd that you mentioned the payslips in what, two or three different threads you have started on the matter, but not once mentioned the "more serious matters" - will certainly be over soon. They are almost certainly going to dismiss you. But take this to court and I promise you - the nightmare is only just starting. You really don't have a clue. I won't take a case that isn't solid to court - and I know all the in's and out's, and I am tough as nails when it gets down to it because I have to be. If you think that not getting some payslips is a nightmare, then you have no idea what a tribunal will be.

Time to move on.

hello2007

I have always thought that you can find good advice on this forum however people can be very rude and judgemental on this forum.

I agree that I handled my situation the wrong way and I am going to lose my job However it does not change the fact that I was discrimated against.

I had the right to raise a grievance and they had the right to suspend me if they choose to I get that. I do not think that going to court is a walk in the park and I never said that I wanted money from this situation.

For the record I sumbit the serious grievances before the suspension and the further grievances were only sent because my manager broke my confidentially.

There is no need for anymore posts time to move on.

Emmzi

You have had good advice but chose to ignore it!

If you stop replying, people will stop answering you, but you have to stop first.

dandelionclock30

Yes people are often very rude and judgemental here-but overall you will get the correct advice.There is no way that people will support you against an employer-they will then lose their own jobs because an employer will find an excuse to get rid of them. Sorry but thats the way it is.
Just look for another job and cut your losses and move on.If you have only been there 3 months then you can leave it off your c.v.
If they do dismiss you and you lose against them in an ET they may also write this on your reference.