Working Out Annual Leave

Suarez

We are having a discussion in work about how to work out annual leave for part time workers.

Example.

We have employees working 11 hours per week as well as people doing 37.5.

For the 37.5 they would get 150 hours (20 days) and 60 hours (8 days) bank holiday.

Now for someone working the 11 hours they would get 44 hours and 18 hours bank holidays. What if they don't work on a bank holiday?

oldoakey

We have never paid Bank holidays to part time staff you are not obliged to apart from Christmas day, Boxing day and New years day which I think is statutory.
The annual leave was always calculated as four times the employees normal working week so 4 x 11 = 44.

Savvy_Sue

oldoakey, I think that is wrong on all counts, but I may be misunderstanding what you're saying ...

oldoakey wrote: »

We have never paid Bank holidays to part time staff you are not obliged to apart from Christmas day, Boxing day and New years day which I think is statutory.

You are obliged to treat your p-t employees no less favourably than your f/t staff. If you pay your f/t staff for BHs, you must pay your p/t staff for BHs, always of course on a pro rata basis.

For the OP, your calculations are correct, and if they don't work on a bank holiday, they get the chance to take that time off on some other day.

Think of it this way: your f/t employees have 210 hours of holiday, 60 of which MUST be taken on bank holidays because you don't want them to work. Your p/t employees need to have the same proportion of paid leave, and those who don't usually work on Bank Holidays therefore get more choice about when they take their leave.

oldoakey wrote: »

The annual leave was always calculated as four times the employees normal working week so 4 x 11 = 44.

That was correct when the f/t minimum leave entitlement was 4 weeks (20 days for those working 5 days pw). It stopped being correct when the statutory minimum leave entitlement went up to first 24 days, and then 28 days, which is what it is now. You'd now have to multiply by 5.6, or 12.07%.

cabbage

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COOLTRIKERCHICK

I get my accountant to work holidays out etc,

but just out of curio

I have one emplyee who works 5 hours per day 5 days a week.

I also have another employee who works 4 hours a day 4 days per week.

so how many 'days' are they entitled to per year ( when i say days of their normal shifts are they entitled to)

would really appreciate if someone could work it out, and tell me how to do it

thanks...really appreciate it

Uncertain

oldoakey wrote: »

We have never paid Bank holidays to part time staff you are not obliged to apart from Christmas day, Boxing day and New years day which I think is statutory.

Sorry but this is complete nonsense!

There is no legal right to any bank holiday but there is a legal right to 28 days annual leave for a full time employee (pro rata for part time).

Within certain limits an employer can dictate when holiday must be take. Obviously if the firm is closed on the eight bank holidays then that is 8 of the 28 days accounted for leaving 20 days (four weeks) to be booked and taken in the normal way.

Obviously you can give more holiday but you can't give less.

Uncertain

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I get my accountant to work holidays out etc,

but just out of curio

I have one emplyee who works 5 hours per day 5 days a week.

I also have another employee who works 4 hours a day 4 days per week.

so how many 'days' are they entitled to per year ( when i say days of their normal shifts are they entitled to)

would really appreciate if someone could work it out, and tell me how to do it

thanks...really appreciate it

The full time allowance of 28 days equates to 5.6 working weeks.

If a person regularly works four days per week then they still get 5.6 or their 4 days weeks as holiday which equals 22.4 days per year.

mildred1978

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I get my accountant to work holidays out etc,

but just out of curio

I have one emplyee who works 5 hours per day 5 days a week.

I also have another employee who works 4 hours a day 4 days per week.

so how many 'days' are they entitled to per year ( when i say days of their normal shifts are they entitled to)

would really appreciate if someone could work it out, and tell me how to do it

thanks...really appreciate it

They must get a minimum of 5.6 weeks per year. If they normally work 4 days then that's 5.6 x 4; if they work 5 says then it's 5.6 x 5 (the same as a full timer but shorter days).

What do full timers get re bank holidays?

COOLTRIKERCHICK

so basically they are intitled to 28 days of their ususal working hours...yes?

so if someone only worked 2 hours per day, they are entitled to 28 days of 2 hours ?

COOLTRIKERCHICK

mildred1978 wrote: »

They must get a minimum of 5.6 weeks per year. If they normally work 4 days then that's 5.6 x 4; if they work 5 says then it's 5.6 x 5 (the same as a full timer but shorter days).

What do full timers get re bank holidays?

our holiday policey is ( for full timers ) 28 days including bank holidays,

we never work a bank holiday.

part timers... I have allways said its 28 days for full timers, and part timers are pro-rata, part timers allways get paid their normal wqrking hours for a bank holiday,

but now it has been explained.. I can tell the part timers they are entitled to 28 days per year (including all bank holidays) so basically it is 28 days of what ever daily hours they work YES?

so what about the person who only works 4 hours a day for 4 days?

Uncertain

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

so basically they are intitled to 28 days of their ususal working hours...yes?

so if someone only worked 2 hours per day, they are entitled to 28 days of 2 hours ?

Correct !!