Atheist and the nativity

pinksleepybear

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

Christianity is based purely on an individual's relationship with God, through his Son Jesus. It has nothing to do with organised religion, church or stories taught in school.

I would also be glad to see the removal of christian influence from our daily lives and infrastructure.

robpw2

PoorCharleyBear wrote: »

wow I had not thought my request would open such impassioned responses.

I believe that forcing a religion on a child is not the way to go- you basically make them behave from fear. I would rather my child behaved well because it feels better (or makes mummy/daddy happier) than to please some floaty being.

I have just read the God Delusion, which makes me question more why some people believe so strongly and I believe so strongly that there is no god being.

I do not plan to avoid religion with her, but I do not want her to think all these stories are true and that these stories should form the basis of her life. (OK she is only little at the moment and will not understand such concepts, but I am thinking about when the questions do arise).

Christmas is about a time of giving, thinking of others, spending time together and not about religion for our family.

Christ Mass ... do you not see the irony
you are celebrating an event for which you do not have any belief .. that my dear makes you a hypocrite

pinksleepybear

robpw2 wrote: »

Christ Mass ... do you not see the irony
you are celebrating an event for which you do not have any belief .. that my dear makes you a hypocrite

Why don't you look to the log in your own eye?

newcook

pinksleepybear wrote: »

I would also be glad to see the removal of christian influence from our daily lives and infrastructure.

Then we would need to do that for all religions not just Christianity.

robpw2

pinksleepybear wrote: »

Why don't you look to the log in your own eye?

im a christian do you have any issue with that ?

pinksleepybear

newcook wrote: »

Then we would need to do that for all religions not just Christianity.

:j

Let's get started!

pinksleepybear

robpw2 wrote: »

im a christian do you have any issue with that ?

None at all.

Do you have any issues with judging someone else when your religion tells you not to do so?

robpw2

pinksleepybear wrote: »

None at all.

Do you have any issues with judging someone else when your religion tells you not to do so?

Im not judging , just making a very valid point .. that someone who claims to be a staunch atheist and does not want her child knowing the true meaning of chirstmas to then celelbrate it - is rediculous

the whole point about christmas is that its a celebration of the birth of jesus , a christian festival and thefore her child should learn about what the day means

claire16c

JC9297 wrote: »

They don't have to study RE after year 9 unless they have chosen to take GCSE. I know some Catholic secondary schools make their pupils do it but it is not a requirement of the National Curriculum.

Yes they do have to teach RE, its even shown in the link I posted that they do.

How much the school actually does and what they teach is another thing.

pinksleepybear

robpw2 wrote: »

Im not judging , just making a very valid point .. that someone who claims to be a staunch atheist and does not want her child knowing the true meaning of chirstmas to then celelbrate it - is rediculous

the whole point about christmas is that its a celebration of the birth of jesus , a christian festival and thefore her child should learn about what the day means

But your 'true meaning' of xmas isn't how she celebrates it. If she doesn't want her child to worship your christ...and then spends the day not worshipping your christ, how would that make her a hypocrite?

Is it just the word 'christmas' that you dislike so much?