child exploitation!! -what do you think??

poet123

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

A daily paper round I'd quite agree but I don't think an evening a week's a problem.

Neither do I think that children are harmed by being out in the rain - as my mother used to say, "You're not a lump of sugar, you won't melt!"

We played sports in all weathers when I was at school; hockey was only cancelled when we'd damage the turf!

I agree with all that, mine have actually played rugby up on the Pennine moors in snow, and several players had to be checked for hypothermia after the game.

My point is, for me, 13 is too young to be "working" and to be exposed to unnecessary dangers. I don't believe it is necessary or desirable for them to do that to teach them a life lesson, there is plenty of time and opportunity for that when they get older.

As I say each to their own.

aliasojo

poet123 wrote: »

As I say each to their own.

I think that is the most relevant part.

poet123

aliasojo wrote: »

I think that is the most relevant part.

Not to me.

Uncertain

poet123 wrote: »

Not to me.

Clearly!

You have you views and I've no doubt there are many people that would agree with them.

In my view an important life skill is for children to learn at as early an age as is reasonable something about the value of money. The best way for them to do this is to earn a small amount themselves and have as much freedom as possible as to how they spend, save or invest it. To me this has an equal importance to sporting and other leisure activities. It shouldn't replace either of these activities but it may reduce them a little.

Sadly schools do far too little in this area so it needs help and encouragement from parents to make up the deficiency.

aliasojo

poet123 wrote: »

Not to me.

Well I don't understand why. Surely the most important thing is that we all live to our own beliefs regardless of other people's opinions?

poet123

aliasojo wrote: »

Well I don't understand why. Surely the most important thing is that we all live to our own beliefs regardless of other people's opinions?

Absolutely, but I inferred from you comment that you considered my comments irrelevant to the thread.

poet123

Uncertain wrote: »

Clearly!

You have you views and I've no doubt there are many people that would agree with them.

In my view an important life skill is for children to learn at as early an age as is reasonable something about the value of money. The best way for them to do this is to earn a small amount themselves and have as much freedom as possible as to how they spend, save or invest it. To me this has an equal importance to sporting and other leisure activities. It shouldn't replace either of these activities but it may reduce them a little.

Sadly schools do far too little in this area so it needs help and encouragement from parents to make up the deficiency.

I agree, where we differ is the age at which it is necessary to begin such life lessons, and up to which age they should just enjoy being children.

Mine all had part time jobs from the summer after their A/AS Levels, prior to that they concentrated on their studies and sports. Being such late starters;) to the world of work doesn't seem to have impaired either their work ethic or their financial judgement.

Oldernotwiser

poet123 wrote: »

I agree, where we differ is the age at which it is necessary to begin such life lessons, and up to which age they should just enjoy being children.

Mine all had part time jobs from the summer after their A/AS Levels, prior to that they concentrated on their studies and sports. Being such late starters;) to the world of work doesn't seem to have impaired either their work ethic or their financial judgement.

I think nowadays a young person who hadn't had a job before A levels would have difficulty getting one afterwards!

I agree that 13 is too young (it was the after dark and weather argument I disagreed with) but school leaving age seems to me to be ideal.

serious_saver

dawyldthing wrote: »

we used to get 2p a paper to deliver the free papers door to door, and generally i think was around 80p per 100 leaflets that had to go into the papers, but with leaflets and samples some weeks we got 15 quid for a 250 door round

My evening round was pretty much the same but I got an extra payment on top because it was considered to be a difficult round. It was in an area that had particularly long driveways. It was also a round that had not been done for a long time (because of the driveways) in an affluent area that the advertisers were keen to deliver to.

Because of the area I had a lot of leaflets to deliver but that was bonus as that was where the money could be made. They always used to give us too many leaflets which was also a bonus when they contained free samples for vouchers. I did a lot of baking when there was an offer for free butter!

poet123

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I think nowadays a young person who hadn't had a job before A levels would have difficulty getting one afterwards!

I agree that 13 is too young (it was the after dark and weather argument I disagreed with) but school leaving age seems to me to be ideal.

Really? Why? Unless you mean due to the economic climate? Mine are 27, 25, 23,and 14, and all of the older ones managed to find a part time job after their first year in college. They worked in a warehouse, video game shop and bar respectively.

I think age, weather and safety are all relevant but my main thought is that unless there is real need I would just rather they did something else.