asking cat rescue for "dontation" back?!

pawsies

PolarKitt wrote: »

So she got a cat, didn't get her spayed and this makes it somebody elses fault? Even though if the cat had been spayed being let out wouldn't have caused this.
It's great she's being "responsible" now but if she had done this before hand this wouldn't have happened and to try and blame it on somebody else is disgusting in my opinion, her cat means her responsibility and since she didn't make sure this could never happen she's entirely to blame she could have even got her spayed the day after she came back from escaping since by that point the sperm wouldn't have even reached the egg to start producing any kittens. Also just for the record, feeding kittens does not cost £40 each, they're mostly on mommas milk and since you got yours at at least 8 weeks she would have spent less than 2 weeks feeding them dry or wet food, she hasn't got them vaccinated and I find it highly unlikely she took them all to the vets to have them properly wormed and flead.

Personally I think all rescues should have kittens fixed before adopting them out because it stops people like your friend having "accidents"

As for the topic, the refund is likely not going to happen if you signed anything and technically the money you paid for them covered the care for the care you originally got, it wasn't their fault that you had to return him, they don't just pay people who bring back their rescue cats, so in my own opinion it shouldn't carry over to another kitten, however they're being kind and allowing exactly that so don't take it for granted.

Not everyone wants to spay their cat! I agree it is a lot more convenient for rescues but you have to remember that it is a mutilation of the animal and not everyone agrees with that. It's not going to be possible to keep an eye on the cat 24/7 but if the owner knew she was in heat she should definitely have notified other people in contact with the cat in her absence.

gettingready

pawsies wrote: »

Not everyone wants to spay their cat! I agree it is a lot more convenient for rescues but you have to remember that it is a mutilation of the animal and not everyone agrees with that. It's not going to be possible to keep an eye on the cat 24/7 but if the owner knew she was in heat she should definitely have notified other people in contact with the cat in her absence.

Sorry but what a nonsense......

Do you have any idea how many stray/unwanted/uncared for cats are there due to people sharing your , very unfortunate point of view?

gettingready

PolarKitt wrote: »

Also just for the record, feeding kittens does not cost £40 each, they're mostly on mommas milk and since you got yours at at least 8 weeks she would have spent less than 2 weeks feeding them dry or wet food,

Sorry but raising a family of cats does not involve feeding kittens only.

We had a little cat family not long ago (Lucy's thread) and believe me, it would have not been easy without very kind help of people from THIS forum helping up out with vouchers/tokens etc.

Mum cat eats like a horse - even before kittens are born. She pees a lot. Kittens are born. Mum eats more. things need to be washed to keep the little ones clean. Cat litter, cleaning stuff, washing stuff (bedding, floor everything) worming for mum and babies,. more food for mum (as feedign kittens she eats like 2 horses), feeding kittens....

I had no idea through how much food and litter they go till they are ready to go to new homes. And desinfecting stuff, washing bedding, washing bowls, washing litter trays, changing litter, worming - it adds up to quite a bit....

KxMx

pawsies wrote: »

Not everyone wants to spay their cat! I agree it is a lot more convenient for rescues but you have to remember that it is a mutilation of the animal and not everyone agrees with that. It's not going to be possible to keep an eye on the cat 24/7 but if the owner knew she was in heat she should definitely have notified other people in contact with the cat in her absence.

Good lord.

I wonder why the waiting list for cats to come in to our local CP has been shut to new people since September...

sazzybum

pawsies wrote: »

Not everyone wants to spay their cat! I agree it is a lot more convenient for rescues but you have to remember that it is a mutilation of the animal and not everyone agrees with that. It's not going to be possible to keep an eye on the cat 24/7 but if the owner knew she was in heat she should definitely have notified other people in contact with the cat in her absence.

I vote for this post to be the most ill-informed, biggest load of big hairy rollocks of the week!

'Convenient for rescues'?? Shut up! It's so they don't get landed with the litters of the cats they rehome, who go on to have more litters etc etc..Can't you see where I'm going with this?

'Mutilation'?? Have you actually SEEN a cat in heat being chased down the street by aggressive tom cats and being practically gang-r aped? no? Thought not.

pawsies

What a nice bunch of judgemental responses!

Yes I am very aware of the cat overpopulation problem. Yes spaying/neutering is great to prevent the problem. However as with most things these days it is a quick fix.
In terms of rescuing I agree it is much easier to fix animals before rehoming to prevent overpopulation however I think people should have the option to keep their cats intact especially if they are indoor cats.
It's very easy to say oh neuter all rescue animals to prevent overpopulation/behavioural issues BUT there are consequences on the animal that need to be thought about!!!

Neutering is affecting their hormones, if you have a timid cat this means any sort of testosterone/oestrogen that gives them a bit of confidence is taken away.
Again in most situations, neutering is better for everyone but it's not something to take lightly. It's a BIG decision.

As for mutilation, of course it is. Just like tail docking in dogs, you are REMOVING part of the animal. I've worked in a rescue, I know what goes on and yes it's better for most cases where the owner's pretty much have no clue and will never control their pet.

It is ideal for rescues as they have a high income of animals and want to slow the speed down but again, it's not always the best thing for the animal. I've found some studies to show the effects neutering can have. I'm not going to post them as I don't think they're available for public view but I advise that you do some research around the topic.

gettingready wrote: »

Sorry but what a nonsense......

Do you have any idea how many stray/unwanted/uncared for cats are there due to people sharing your , very unfortunate point of view?

sazzybum wrote: »

I vote for this post to be the most ill-informed, biggest load of big hairy rollocks of the week!

'Convenient for rescues'?? Shut up! It's so they don't get landed with the litters of the cats they rehome, who go on to have more litters etc etc..Can't you see where I'm going with this?

'Mutilation'?? Have you actually SEEN a cat in heat being chased down the street by aggressive tom cats and being practically gang-r aped? no? Thought not.

KxMx wrote: »

Good lord.

I wonder why the waiting list for cats to come in to our local CP has been shut to new people since September...

farfromhome

Pawsies,

I am sorry but have you ever had a cat in heat - especially an indoor cat? That poor cat will be climbing the walls trying to get out. An unneutered female cat will be in heat virtually all of the time and desperately unhappy if she can't mate.

I speak from experience, and by the way, in this area you will always find kittens for sale. You see the same phone numbers over and over again, their poor cats are used as breeding machines. Unfortunately people are still willing to pay for a kitten, even a moggy, and when you have thousands of strays, and rescue places cannot take in any more, then yes, every cat (male or female) should be spayed. I would not ever consider buying from a breeder either because of all the unwanted cats around.

And don't even get me started on "I wanted my cat to have one litter" and "Would you like one of the kittens, otherwise the last one will have to be put down"! This is what I was asked by an acquaintance only a few weeks ago!

Fridaycat

farfromhome wrote: »

Pawsies,

I am sorry but have you ever had a cat in heat - especially an indoor cat? That poor cat will be climbing the walls trying to get out. An unneutered female cat will be in heat virtually all of the time and desperately unhappy if she can't mate.

I speak from experience, and by the way, in this area you will always find kittens for sale. You see the same phone numbers over and over again, their poor cats are used as breeding machines. Unfortunately people are still willing to pay for a kitten, even a moggy, and when you have thousands of strays, and rescue places cannot take in any more, then yes, every cat (male or female) should be spayed. I would not ever consider buying from a breeder either because of all the unwanted cats around.


And don't even get me started on "I wanted my cat to have one litter" and "Would you like one of the kittens, otherwise the last one will have to be put down"! This is what I was asked by an acquaintance only a few weeks ago!

I agree with you 100%.

(Just thought I'd point out, though, that you SPAY a female cat and CASTRATE a male one :rotfl:) (Or you could NEUTER either) (But you don't spay a male )

chloebug

farfromhome wrote: »

Pawsies,

I am sorry but have you ever had a cat in heat - especially an indoor cat? That poor cat will be climbing the walls trying to get out. An unneutered female cat will be in heat virtually all of the time and desperately unhappy if she can't mate.

I speak from experience, and by the way, in this area you will always find kittens for sale. You see the same phone numbers over and over again, their poor cats are used as breeding machines. Unfortunately people are still willing to pay for a kitten, even a moggy, and when you have thousands of strays, and rescue places cannot take in any more, then yes, every cat (male or female) should be spayed. I would not ever consider buying from a breeder either because of all the unwanted cats around.

And don't even get me started on "I wanted my cat to have one litter" and "Would you like one of the kittens, otherwise the last one will have to be put down"! This is what I was asked by an acquaintance only a few weeks ago!

hmmm I agree with part of this post. There are thousands of unwanted moggies in rescue centres and yes they are right to neuter them before rehoming but unfortunately I am one of those evil people you speak of as I breed maine coon cats. Not everyone wants a moggie some people like a cat because they want a certain type of cat. Everyone is entitled to a choice! I have 8 cats including 2 moggies (which are neutered!) and then 6 maine coons from which we have around 3/4 litters per year (altogether not each cat!). The money from these pays to keep all my cats over the year. I hope that if someone pays a price for my kitten then that kitten will be well cared for whereas a cat they have got for free is more likely to be mistreated. Some people don't agree with people breeding pedigree cats but that's their opinion. Also on the issue of cats on heat, I obviously have a lot of experience of this and firstly most unneutered females do not call continuously (although some do) and they are not always noisy. We have 2 girls who are extremely difficult to tell if they are on heat at all.

spike7451

You know,I'm sitting here,watching Rookie Blue,with Daisy on my lap & got thinking...She was an unwanted pet,yet because of unknown circumstances,she wound up in the cattery.
She's now got a loving home,thanks to me taking her on,but when I was looking for another puss,the was so many cats in the cattery,it was like looking at a box of choccys..too many variety's to choose from!