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Daughter's Car Accident - please help.
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atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »i would say your daughter had a very lucky escape, ive seen damage like that result in a car exploding into flames moments later because the battery damaged as like in your photo of it hanging out causing the posative to make conttact with ground +posative wires causing sparks to fly coupled with a pinched fuel pipe on the injector rail and results is bang, the young fella i helped had just managed to walk 20 feet before it caught fire in the engine bay and it quickly spread, had he been trapped i feared the worse could have happened although i would have given it my best to save him if that event had arose.
I know. Here i am arguing about the accident but in reality I am sleepless and shocked and can't stop thinking about it. She told me that she could not open the drivers door at first and had to wrench it open. All she wanted to do was get out of the car.
A girl I work with had exactly the same accident. She was hit from behind went into a spin and another car hit her. She ended up with a fractured skull, in a coma with a broken pelvis. Three months later she is still on crutches and wearing a brace. They said that she was lucky.The forest would be very silent if no birds sang except for the birds that sang the best0 -
Well, let's hope that they have the witness's contact details and can find the BMW again quickly - sounds like the BMW driver was at fault!
To be honest, I'd expect(if things are as cut and dried as you make out) for them to have processed the BMW driver at the scene for careless driving....
I am not saying its cut and dried. I don't know why the police officer acted as he did. We don't even know if he has the BMW driver's details as he sent her on her way. Or the witness. We cannot contact him.The forest would be very silent if no birds sang except for the birds that sang the best0 -
Yes, and an HGV could have come along and wiped her out completely, but thankfully it didn't. :think:
Let's stick to what we KNOW happened and not get caught up in what COULD have happened. We're having a hard enough time trying to find out what DID happen.
You are right but I keep thinking what could have happened. I can't help it.The forest would be very silent if no birds sang except for the birds that sang the best0 -
You are a brilliant example of someone who has an aim (the aim is to show your daughter did no wrong) and will pick up anything that supports your view and ignore everything that doesn't.Okay last post to sum up:
Daughter thought she was hit.
Witness said she was hit by the BMW.
Recovery men's opinion she was hit from behind.
Husband's opinion after looking at car was that she was hit from behind. Found paint but could not tell colour as mashed up.
Mark on the back of the car.
Memory loss probably caused by bash on the head and shock, (Large cut and swelling on back of head) rather than blackout, sleep or not paying attention. Why do you all think otherwise?
Police officer said that she was a new driver and the wind probably caused it. Police officer talked over her and would not listen to what she was saying.
BMW driver stopped. Would not make eye contact with daughter. Everyone else who stopped was helpful and kind.
Daughter drives to work on 2 motorways every day to work.
What makes you think a recovery man's opinion is worth more than anyone else's, apart from the obvious (he's said what you want to hear)? They are not accident investigators, they just winch dead cars on to trucks and transport them.
The traffic cop who attended the accident most likely is an accident investigator, who deals with real accidents every day, but you discard his professional opinion as it's not what you want to believe.
The white marks do not look like transferred paint marks from a car. It looks like impact damage to me, the kind of impact you may get by clipping the barrier during a spin. It could have been a car that impacted her, but imagine this:
Your daughter's driving in the middle lane.
A car bumps her from behind at the rear left of her bumper.
Just how would a car, approaching from behind, hit her on the left side of her bumper? That car would have had to have been going for an undertake and misjudged it; highly unlikely.0 -
You are a brilliant example of someone who has an aim (the aim is to show your daughter did no wrong) and will pick up anything that supports your view and ignore everything that doesn't.
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yet you are a brilliant example of someone who's determined to argue against everything...
you don't own a blue BMW do you?0 -
You are a brilliant example of someone who has an aim (the aim is to show your daughter did no wrong) and will pick up anything that supports your view and ignore everything that doesn't.
What makes you think a recovery man's opinion is worth more than anyone else's, apart from the obvious (he's said what you want to hear)? They are not accident investigators, they just winch dead cars on to trucks and transport them.
The traffic cop who attended the accident most likely is an accident investigator, who deals with real accidents every day, but you discard his professional opinion as it's not what you want to believe.
The white marks do not look like transferred paint marks from a car. It looks like impact damage to me, the kind of impact you may get by clipping the barrier during a spin. It could have been a car that impacted her, but imagine this:
Your daughter's driving in the middle lane.
A car bumps her from behind at the rear left of her bumper.
Just how would a car, approaching from behind, hit her on the left side of her bumper? That car would have had to have been going for an undertake and misjudged it; highly unlikely.
The car could have been coming up behind her in the inside lane to overtake her from the inside and then as it reached her swayed over and hit her (maybe it was the strong wind as the policeman said.)
It seems strange to me that the only damage seems at that point and the witness told my daughter that the BMW hit her car. You are ignoring what the witness said. My daughter said he was certain of it.
In any case whatever you may say, the mark on the back of the car is suspicious at least. It is not up to the policeman to dismiss it without further investigation and say it could have been the wind when a young woman could have been killed. I explained in an earlier post that there is paint on the back of the car but it is mashed up and hard to see the colour. To my mind its either of these scenarios.
1. The policeman missed the mark on the back of the car in which case I would not trust what he might have seen on the BMW. If he missed it then yes I would trust the recovery drivers' opinion more.
2. He saw the mark and dismissed it and said it could be the wind, in which case I would not trust his judgement about anything he saw on the other car. He had no right to make the decision about what caused the crash.
3. He took full details of the witness and the BMW for further investigation then let them go. I am hoping he did this so that the insurance investigator can have another look at the BMW. If it proves negative then fine. I will accept it then.
The thing is there may be some doubt but you are saying its practically impossible that another car hit her.
I am not going to argue any more but am going to post an update if there is any more news.The forest would be very silent if no birds sang except for the birds that sang the best0 -
Can you be sure that this mark was caused by the accident itself or could it have been made during the recovery process, you did say it was recovered by a crane?1. The policeman missed the mark on the back of the car in which case I would not trust what he might have seen on the BMW. If he missed it then yes I would trust the recovery drivers' opinion more.0 -
You are ignoring what the witness said. My daughter said he was certain of it.
and yet in your first post you say: "There was one witness who thought the BMW hit my daughter but he was not sure. The BMW stopped but denied hitting my daughter's car. The policeman looked at the BMW and said there was no sign of damage." We can only go on the facts you tell us.
If the BMW was blue it is unlikely, though not impossible (due to primers) that that transfer is from the BMW. With the significant damage to the wheel arch the BMW would have more damage than paint transfer, yet the officer found none. It is very unlikely that he just would have ignored damage to the BMW.
Paint transfer could have happened in the crash (you said she spun) or recovery.
You should contact your insurers and ask them to contact the 3rd party for an examination of the vehicle, also call the police and ask the same thing. However, if the police insist there was no other car involved there is not much you can do.Save £200 a month : [STRIKE]Oct[/STRIKE] Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr0 -
I am not saying its cut and dried. I don't know why the police officer acted as he did. We don't even know if he has the BMW driver's details as he sent her on her way. Or the witness. We cannot contact him.
In that case you need a copy of the accident report.
If she has damaged the barriers and they were repaired at the time the loss of her car is going to be the cheap part of this insurance claim.0
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