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Good luck to state workers picketing today
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Oh dear. You weren't around in the 1970s, were you?
Trust me. British Leyland wasn't a loss.0 -
but certainly it's cheaper than it would be if we had a state monopoly.
How can you be so confident in that, it may be your opinion? Every time I have to switch to the next best tariff that costs the companies, thus me, probably £100 a time , admin costs on both sides and the switching commission and the cashback. I dig out the cash back if, I swapped elsewhere it wouldn't be paid. they act as acartel and their is only a limited "wholesaler" base.
But where do you think these "massive profits" actually go anyway? They don't just disappear into the pockets of some fat banker, they go to pay returns on investments, most usually pension funds.
You would like to think so wouldn't you but as three are owned by foreign companies do we really know what proportion stays in the UK?
Even if they do get to the Pension fund pot they are then turned over by many parasites taking their cut.
The desire for profit growth tends to create efficiency. Now obviously it's not always the case that it works, but if you admit there is waste in the public sector then surely any means of removing that is better. If the public sector has to compete with the private sector on a bid, it has a built in advantage because it doesn't have to generate a profit. But we should allow the competition, and not rule it out because of an emotional distaste for the idea of "profit"
Don't dispute your last point providing it is done for legitimate, not political reasons,is sustainable going forward and genuinely saves money to me as a taxpayer.
The trouble is that last bit never materialises.
If 500000 economic migrants and their families were repatriated that may have more effect."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Oh dear. You weren't around in the 1970s, were you?
Trust me. British Leyland wasn't a loss.
Yes I was and new many people that were involved in the whole of the car manufacturing business both then and now."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Yep, if we repatriated half a million productive migrants making a net positive contribution to the economy we'd be on our knees immediately. Be awful. Thanks for pointing it out.0
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grizzly1911 wrote: »Yes I was and new many people that were involved in the whole of the car manufacturing business both then and now.
The good old closed shop, sleeping on the nightshift, demarcation disputes and Friday cars with bits falling off as you drove them.
Life was good then, eh?0 -
Yep, if we repatriated half a million productive migrants making a net positive contribution to the economy we'd be on our knees immediately. Be awful. Thanks for pointing it out.
We may well have lower benefit claimant rate, saving us money and draining our expensive public services less as there would be less people using them. But perhaps they wouldn't be productive, making a net contribution to this country.
Surely the private sector could sort that out."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
The good old closed shop, sleeping on the nightshift, demarcation disputes and Friday cars with bits falling off as you drove them.
Life was good then, eh?
You are leaning FAR too much on technology to hold your point now.
You may aswell say a Robin Reliant isn't as good as a Ford Ka for all the sense it makes.
You haven't been able to give me any examples. Only BT, which I, and another poster disagree with you on.
I'm not saying theres not waste, there is.
But I am saying I fail to see an example of a private company not just getting rid of the waste, but reducing costs to us.
As it is, all privatisations are now costing us not only in terms of high prices, but also in terms of tax props. They may have got rid of the wastage, they may no longer offer a public sector type pension. But have things REALLY got better. Is it costing us any less? It appears actually, it's costing us all more.0 -
The good old closed shop, sleeping on the nightshift, demarcation disputes and Friday cars with bits falling off as you drove them.
Life was good then, eh?
Poor management.
Funny cliche the Friday cars, not much different to many products we buy today that don't last and fail. They are made much more efficiently of course.
Back in those good old days many cars fell to bits and BL weren't alone in that many brands were equally poor."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Most workers actually haven't got a clue why they are striking. I bet they are only doing what their union bosses ordered them to do. Most are also working under peer pressure as well.
Just nab some of the guys shouting with pickets randomly and ask few basic economic questions and they will scoot
Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.0 -
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