Good luck to state workers picketing today

julieq

movilogo wrote: »

Most workers actually haven't got a clue why they are striking. I bet they are only doing what their union bosses ordered them to do. Most are also working under peer pressure as well.

Just nab some of the guys shouting with pickets randomly and ask few basic economic questions and they will scoot

Have a look at the actual offer. I doubt many of the strikers have even read it

http://cdn.hm-treasury.gov.uk/pensions_publicservice_021111.pdf

It's a really great deal. You keep what you've already accrued, and the changes are better than almost anything available elsewhere.

angrypirate

julieq wrote: »

Have a look at the actual offer. I doubt many of the strikers have even read it

http://cdn.hm-treasury.gov.uk/pensions_publicservice_021111.pdf

It's a really great deal. You keep what you've already accrued, and the changes are better than almost anything available elsewhere.

God that is a really good offer. Im glad they have rejected it. Hopefully the Government will now return to the original less generous offer and fight it out against the unions. Fingers crossed that with every strike the offer becomes less generous saving the the tax payer more money. Greedy gits.

wymondham

Looking at the news today Heathrow is now operating like a dream rather than the predicted nightmare ..... the staff there should be more concerned about greater things than their pensions!!

julieq

Was through Heathrow at the weekend. The funny thing there was that they were trying to shovel the UK passport holders through the biometric machines, but they hardly work at all so there's a guy having to help everyone through. There was a cheer when anyone managed to get approved, and it was much quicker to go through the manned desks.

Another one to thank New Labour for.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Probably due to the fact that you don't get that many nurses, doctors, radiologists etc in the private sector, so the demand for those private jobs would be immense.

And I'm not sure which company runs a private police, fire or coastguard service.

Also not too sure which company runs Armys.

Also not sure which company runs payments to farmers etc

Is that not an identical argument to all those that say "join the public sector if you think it is that good."

Why would you expect to leave the public sector to get an identical job. If I left the private sector there is no identical job. But there are jobs that could fit my skill set, like all of your above examples.
If it was that bad I would change jobs, simple.

grizzly1911

wymondham wrote: »

Looking at the news today Heathrow is now operating like a dream rather than the predicted nightmare ..... the staff there should be more concerned about greater things than their pensions!!

I heard some comments on the news to the effect that the booths/lanes were largely unmanned and they weer being ushered through.

If you stop doing something then it will make things like this quicker and a cheaper so you are right that they should be concerned for now rather than the future.

That goes against the political mantra of tightening the borders and keeping those "terrorists" out though.

If we opened up the borders completely it would of course allow in more economically productive migrants that would have a positive effect on our economy, apparently, so that may be a benefit too.

Really2

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Don't dispute that there are limited perks available. Makes the employer feel happier at work therefore more productive.

The services are being delivered at little additional cost, the pool/gym would still be open and it still needs to be heated.

There is probably an ulterior motive in that they probably expect healthy staff to take less sick days and early retirement due to ill health.

Shame they seem to have on average higher sickness than the private sector.

I think in general they are treated as a perk, no ulterior motive, if there was evidence that doing so was cheaper than days off sick it would be rife across all sectors.

ruggedtoast

The trouble with you people is that you want first world public services at third world prices.

You will end up disappointed one way or the other I can tell you.

julieq

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The trouble with you people is that you want first world public services at third world prices.

You will end up disappointed one way or the other I can tell you.

Crazy talk. We've just offered the public services a fantastic pension deal, and they get paid more than us already. We'd just like them to appreciate what they have more instead of whinging and picketing hospitals.

grizzly1911

Really2 wrote: »

Shame they seem to have on average higher sickness than the private sector.

I think in general they are treated as a perk, no ulterior motive, if there was evidence that doing so was cheaper than days off sick it would be rife across all sectors.

I have worked in a sky scraper. They issued us all with pedometers encouraging us to use the stairs to help our fitness. That was a private sector initiative though, not to mention the savings on lift leccy;).

If it is an LGA centre then it is free give away to some extent, providing the public use it, of course. Sales people have TLA for it but escapes me at the moment.

If my local baker, a big one, wanted to offer similar it would cost them to do so.

By the way my son was/is a LGA lifeguard and they still made him pay for "personal" use, and his training sessions too.