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  • Esqui wrote: »
    I wouldn't have minded if it was labelled as such :D

    Nothing to do with your post but I like the signature......Point.
  • What was the thread title again? Should still be in google cache.

    And I suddenly fancy some KFC gravy!

    ...It is tasty!
  • ...it was the ref to people from Pakistan that caused the deletion....rightly so IMHO.
  • NCISROCKS wrote: »
    ...it was the ref to people from Pakistan that caused the deletion....rightly so IMHO.


    Whilst I agree in principal that the OP was wrong, can someone explain why it's ok to refer to:

    a turkish person as a turk
    a british person as a brit
    a swedish person as a swede
    a japanese person as a jap
    a scottish person as a scot
    etc, etc,

    but refer to a pakistani person as a paki (it's only an abbreviation after all) and it's a beheading offence.

    Welcome to Britain, the world capital of political correctness.

    It's not that long ago that Alf Garnett in Till Death Us Do Part, and programmes like Love Thy Neighbour, etc, on national television, cheered up millions . . . of all nationalities.
  • System
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    Its because the 'P' word is used in a derogatry manner. If it was used as just a shortened version of Pakistani e.g like "Brit". Then it wouldn't be a problem, however historically it has always been used as a racial slur therefore it is unacceptable to use in polite company. Also i believe its offensive to use the word "Jap".

    There is actually a clothing company down in London which is run by a Pakistani family who design T shirts/Asian fashion with just the "P" word on.
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  • Azari
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    goater78 wrote: »
    Also i believe its offensive to use the word "Jap".

    Someone once said that to me on a forum (after I'd used the term) but I gave them short shrift and no one else supported them.

    There's no history of knuckle draggers going around yelling about 'Jap !!!!!!!s' so AFAIC it's just a simple abbreviation.

    Similarly with 'Eskimo'. I once saw someone criticised for using that but someone else, claiming to be an Inuit told them to stop being an annoying jerk.

    Some people just like to flex their PC muscles at any opportunity.
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  • System
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    Azari wrote: »
    Someone once said that to me on a forum (after I'd used the term) but I gave them short shrift and no one else supported them.

    There's no history of knuckle draggers going around yelling about 'Jap !!!!!!!s' so AFAIC it's just a simple abbreviation.

    Similarly with 'Eskimo'. I once saw someone criticised for using that but someone else, claiming to be an Inuit told them to stop being an annoying jerk.

    Some people just like to flex their PC muscles at any opportunity.

    "Jap" is an offensive word. The main offensive word that is used to describe people from Japan is the "N" word as that is a shorterned version of "Nippon" (The Japanese word for Japan). "Jap" is used as an alternative version of that word and is often used in an offensive context.

    I find people who like to use racist language often wheel out the "PC" argument as a defense for their own racism.

    On a different subject this thread will almost certainly soon be shut down!
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  • Azari
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    goater78 wrote: »
    "Jap" is an offensive word.

    In your opinion.

    Not in mine and many others.
    The main offensive word that is used to describe people from Japan is the "N" word as that is a shorterned version of "Nippon".

    I'd agree that 'nip' is rather offensive. Even if it is just a shortening of 'Nipponese'.
    I find people who like to use racist language often wheel out the "PC" argument as a defence for their own racism.

    I think you mean the 'PC gone mad' argument.

    That may be so 'PC', like anything else can be taken too far and when you get some prissy idiot telling you that a simple abbreviation is suddenly 'racist' when there has been no prior indication that this is so then it's probably time to say 'enough is enough'.

    The 'real' 'n' word, along with 'spick', 'wop', 'kraut', 'paki', and a few others are genuinely offensive.

    Brit, Swede, Jap, Scot, and Turk are only offensive to people trying to demonstrate how 'right on' they are.
    On a different subject this thread will almost certainly soon be shut down!

    Only if people start getting silly.
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  • System
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    good use of quotes....

    We'll have to agree to disagree as i'm off to the pub now and don't have time to argue with a racist. Personally I wouldn't use the word "Jap", however if you are happy to bandy that word around in public then good for you.
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  • Azari
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    goater78 wrote: »
    good use of quotes....

    We'll have to agree to disagree as i'm off to the pub now and don't have time to argue with a racist. Personally I wouldn't use the word "Jap", however if you are happy to bandy that word around in public then good for you.

    It's actually people like you who make it easier for racists.

    You insist that your view is correct even when it's just your own opinion.

    That takes the steam out of the argument when those of us who abhor real racism when we try and make valid points.

    I'm perfectly comfortable saying something like 'the Jap's were the first to implement real high speed rail travel' just as others might say 'the Brits were the first to implement steam railways'.
    There are two types of people in the world: Those that can extrapolate information.
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