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Anyone else hate the school run?

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  • Person_one
    Person_one Posts: 28,884 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »
    Why does it have to be a "need"? I wear it because I want to, like to, nothing more, nothing less. Just like I like to dress smartly, have a good haircut and get my nails done.

    What I don't get or appreciate is the idea that makeup is required to be considered 'smart' or 'presentable' and that without it you're somehow underdressed or haven't made any effort. I'd face a lot more judgement for going to say, a job interview or a christmas party without any on than you would for going on the school run with.

    Mind you, I've never had my nails done either. I don't even know what 'done' is, mine are clean, neat and short, what more can I do to them besides wacky colours!
  • Gillyx
    Gillyx Posts: 6,847 Forumite
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    Birdy12 wrote: »
    Have to say I'm with pinkmami on this, what's the smug face for? Is it because you have a job? So do lots of other people.

    These parents are obviously having a dig at OP because she isn't there every day to pick her children up, and they are smug about that, so I'd be smug back.

    I've seen parents at the school gates and some need taken down a peg or two.

    My best friends a teacher and she said even at Christmas it's a competition between mums and dads as to who can buy the most outrageous/expensive present.
    The frontier is never somewhere else. And no stockades can keep the midnight out.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    Person_one wrote: »
    What I don't get or appreciate is the idea that makeup is required to be considered 'smart' or 'presentable' and that without it you're somehow underdressed or haven't made any effort. I'd face a lot more judgement for going to say, a job interview or a christmas party without any on than you would for going on the school run with.

    Mind you, I've never had my nails done either. I don't even know what 'done' is, mine are clean, neat and short, what more can I do to them besides wacky colours!

    Make up is supposed to perform an enhancing function if it is not applied with a trowel:D I have no issue with someone not wanting to wear make up why should anyone have an issue with those who do, or worse, judge and categorise them for doing so.

    Nails done for me is a full french manicure (white tips)or shellac if painted. I have them done every 2/3 weeks.
  • onlyroz
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    poet123 wrote: »
    Why does it have to be a "need"? I wear it because I want to, like to, nothing more, nothing less. Just like I like to dress smartly, have a good haircut and get my nails done.
    It is a "need" if you physically cannot leave the house, even for a few minutes, without wearing any.
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    Gillyx wrote: »
    My best friends a teacher and she said even at Christmas it's a competition between mums and dads as to who can buy the most outrageous/expensive present.

    Crikey, there are some REALLY unpleasant people out there.

    I don't tell the other mums in the playground what I have bought for the teacher's Christmas present, and it is brought in wrapped up and delivered as discreetly as I can so as not to draw attention to it. But I do try and get something nice particularly for DD's teachers and Teaching Assistants as she has severe special needs and they work very hard with her in what is a demanding job. I tend to go down the route of a really nice, luxury box of chocolate, from eg Thorntons or Hotel Chocolat. It makes me feel a bit sick to be honest, that said teachers might be !!!!!ing behind my back that I am trying to show oneupmanship in the playground, rather than making a genuine effort to show how much they are appreciated :(

    Clearly the school playground is a far bigger minefield than I thought. In my innocence I thought you pitched up twice a day, chatted with whoever was there at the time, and any interactions between you and the teacher stayed between you and the teacher. And I was far happier for that approach. I now know, thanks to this thread, that there is a group of disgruntled mums !!!!!ing in the background about what I wear, drive and talk about, and that the teachers are likely to be joining in. I think to be honest I prefer my version of the world, and will continue to believe it exists for my own happiness and mental health!
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    onlyroz wrote: »
    It is a "need" if you physically cannot leave the house, even for a few minutes, without wearing any.

    No, it is a ritual which is something completely different. The posters who wear it all the time feel more comfortable having applied it before leaving the house, or even if planning in being at home all day. I feel the same way about brushing my teeth and hair. I would not feel comfortable even nipping to the local shop first thing for a pint of milk without brushing my teeth first even though no one would know or care whether I had or hadn't. Most, if not all, of us have something similar. It doesn't make us needy, insecure, OCD or any other pathology you care to name, just a normal human reaction.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    onlyroz wrote: »
    It is a "need" if you physically cannot leave the house, even for a few minutes, without wearing any.

    I know someone who will put make up on after swimming because they are going to stop for a take-away on the way home!

    That's definitely a need in my book!
  • Gillyx
    Gillyx Posts: 6,847 Forumite
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    edited 30 November 2011 at 7:34PM
    Nicki wrote: »
    Crikey, there are some REALLY unpleasant people out there.

    I don't tell the other mums in the playground what I have bought for the teacher's Christmas present, and it is brought in wrapped up and delivered as discreetly as I can so as not to draw attention to it. But I do try and get something nice particularly for DD's teachers and Teaching Assistants as she has severe special needs and they work very hard with her in what is a demanding job. I tend to go down the route of a really nice, luxury box of chocolate, from eg Thorntons or Hotel Chocolat. It makes me feel a bit sick to be honest, that said teachers might be !!!!!ing behind my back that I am trying to show oneupmanship in the playground, rather than making a genuine effort to show how much they are appreciated :(

    Clearly the school playground is a far bigger minefield than I thought. In my innocence I thought you pitched up twice a day, chatted with whoever was there at the time, and any interactions between you and the teacher stayed between you and the teacher. And I was far happier for that approach. I now know, thanks to this thread, that there is a group of disgruntled mums !!!!!ing in the background about what I wear, drive and talk about, and that the teachers are likely to be joining in. I think to be honest I prefer my version of the world, and will continue to believe it exists for my own happiness and mental health!

    last year one parent alone got her a bottle of Moet and a massive bunch of flowers from the local florists, I'd say that's going one more than a genuine nice effort of thanks, wouldn't you?

    She isn't !!!!!ing, merely stating she's happy with a Christmas card or other small offering. Her favourite gift last year was a wee book, that had certain sentences and the child had to finish it off, so it would my teacher is _______ and he/she is _____ blah blah and loads of other sentences, like this year she has taught me ________

    A lot of the kids make home made things too, which I think is really sweet :o but I don't think a nice box of chocolate is going over the top and I'm sure they're really appreciated.
    The frontier is never somewhere else. And no stockades can keep the midnight out.
  • onlyroz
    onlyroz Posts: 17,661 Forumite
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    Nicki wrote: »
    No, it is a ritual which is something completely different. The posters who wear it all the time feel more comfortable having applied it before leaving the house, or even if planning in being at home all day. I feel the same way about brushing my teeth and hair. I would not feel comfortable even nipping to the local shop first thing for a pint of milk without brushing my teeth first even though no one would know or care whether I had or hadn't. Most, if not all, of us have something similar. It doesn't make us needy, insecure, OCD or any other pathology you care to name, just a normal human reaction.
    I'm not quite seeing the difference between "need" and "ritual" in this context. A need is something that you have to do regardless of any other circumstances - so brushing your teeth or hair is a need, if you must do it before leaving the house.

    I'm not criticising people who need to wear make-up all the time, I just don't understand it.
  • bestpud
    bestpud Posts: 11,048 Forumite
    Nicki wrote: »
    Crikey, there are some REALLY unpleasant people out there.

    I don't tell the other mums in the playground what I have bought for the teacher's Christmas present, and it is brought in wrapped up and delivered as discreetly as I can so as not to draw attention to it. But I do try and get something nice particularly for DD's teachers and Teaching Assistants as she has severe special needs and they work very hard with her in what is a demanding job. I tend to go down the route of a really nice, luxury box of chocolate, from eg Thorntons or Hotel Chocolat. It makes me feel a bit sick to be honest, that said teachers might be !!!!!ing behind my back that I am trying to show oneupmanship in the playground, rather than making a genuine effort to show how much they are appreciated :(

    Clearly the school playground is a far bigger minefield than I thought. In my innocence I thought you pitched up twice a day, chatted with whoever was there at the time, and any interactions between you and the teacher stayed between you and the teacher. And I was far happier for that approach. I now know, thanks to this thread, that there is a group of disgruntled mums !!!!!ing in the background about what I wear, drive and talk about, and that the teachers are likely to be joining in. I think to be honest I prefer my version of the world, and will continue to believe it exists for my own happiness and mental health!

    That's something you will get anywhere people gather!

    There will always be someone judging you for how you look.

    On a better note, there will always be someone thinking something positive about you too. :)

    It's a human trait to look at others and draw thoughts from what we see. Anyone who says they never do that is a liar!
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