Motability

tillycat123

iltisman wrote: »

I only know 2 people with motability cars both can walk for miles and one cycles to the gym .
One has a family income of £250K pa and the other £100k they tend to be used as runabouts by family members.

Could be my neighbours! Dad is the claimant, still carries out totally normal life and is loaded. 2 kids each have managed to wangle cars from mobility as well as soon as they passed theirs tests at 17.

1 discovery and 2 polo's sat on the drive.

How do you get cars for the kids as well?

Graham_Devon

tillycat123 wrote: »

Could be my neighbours! Dad is the claimant, still carries out totally normal life and is loaded. 2 kids each have managed to wangle cars from mobility as well as soon as they passed theirs tests at 17.

1 discovery and 2 polo's sat on the drive.

How do you get cars for the kids as well?

Unless fraud is going on, you wouldn't.

How do you know they are mobility cars? You openly state the dad is loaded.

tillycat123

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Unless fraud is going on, you wouldn't.

How do you know they are mobility cars? You openly state the dad is loaded.

He took great pleasure in telling us they were.

Graham_Devon

tillycat123 wrote: »

He took great pleasure in telling us they were.

If the dad is the claimant, he can't claim a car for each family member.

As I say, if they are deffo motability, and hes the claimant, it's fraud.

If they are all claiming higher rate DLA, then that's different. They may well have a car each. Theres a lot of wrong's in that, but I'm just stating how it (might) be possible. They would each need to have a disability.

Just as many couples both claim carer allowance for caring for each other.

plummie2003

Emy1501 wrote: »

You had choice whether to have 5 kids and you also had choice to make sure you married someone suitable before you decided to have kids.

The vast majority of people eligible for this benefit will never had had the opportunity like you would have done to make something of their life and their life will have been greatly improved by it. The scheme does not cost the government extra money unlike a sponger like you. I suspect your childcare nonsense is just an excuse as I suspect you still won' t bother working even when your kids are at school.

Okay well firstly, you narrow minded fool. If you had read my post in its entirety, i didn't have a choice to have 5 children, as i explained, i had triplets and had i not i would have gone back to work. I actually have a university education, and had a VERY good job before i was left my by partner. Do you actually have any idea how much childcare costs?! Have a look around at the majority of people who are single mums or have been divorced/separated.

I am not having a gripe about disabled people receiving benefits, i entirely support that, they deserve quality of life like everybody else however i feel the motability scheme is unecessary in most cases when there are like i said, hard working people who cannot afford the luxury of a car.

How dare you call me a sponger, what you suspect is completely wrong, you will probably find that i am more qualified than you and worked extremely hard before my children were born, and it became completely unfeasable for me to work!

Going4TheDream

plummie2003 wrote: »

"I have 5 children so can't work due to childcare costs, nor can i afford a car, and wouldnt be able to afford one through the motability scheme on the benefits i receive. Why do i get discriminated against? If i could afford a car, or to run one it certainly wouldn't be one suitable for my needs, 4 child seats, and 3 other seats. Who helps me with my costs, no one! instead i have to drag them round on public transport. Why can't disabled people use public transport like everybody else who can't provide an income for themself!?
Discrimination just SHOULDNT happen, negative OR positive. as far as i am concerned, this scheme is positive discrimination toward disabled people, as are many of the discounts they receive simply because they are disabled. Why should the disabled be entitled to something that many hard working, individuals cannot afford either.

Any by the way, for anyone who sits there and says 'well you shouldnt have had 5 children then' I was only ever pregnant three times, i had two children and then triplets, if circumstances were different, like my partner not leaving me, and had my third pregnancy been a single baby i would have been able to go back to work, afford childcare, and a car."

So you have 5 kids you say today...last pregnancy was triplets, and your partner left you hence the reason you cannot work as childcare is to expensive ...... yet on the 21st you had a one year old daughter? I am confused, unless there are two Plummie2003 on this forum?

plummie2003 wrote: »

Surely the CSA would have no bearing on this whatsoever, technically when the dad has no income or is on benefits, earns under x amount, or is a student, the child's mother can expect to receive absolutely zilch child support whatsoever regardless of what assets they have so surely when dad passes for example and assets are in theory liquidated, the income would drop to £0 and the mother should not receive child support for that child.
If this is different then it sounds bloody ridiculous.
From personal experiences, i have a little girl just over 1,who's biological father is a complete (insert offensive term) and if i had my way i would keep him away from her entirely, whilst trying to encourage this i received not 1p child support from him and having since decided to accept that he won't go away and said he can see her every other week i thought well i might as well claim what I am entitled to. If however he did decide to disappear and have nothing to do with her, it would bring me great joy and i would not expect a penny from him. and if he died i certainly wouldn't expect anything in his will for Daughter. She has an amazing dad in my partner who has been there from birth and as far as i am concerned biology shouldn't come into it.
From what it sounds like is that the child has never really been the mans 'child' per say, and more of an inconvenience but he pays child support to keep the mother off his back. I can completely understand this, and anyone who sits and says he is awful and should never treat his children differently. quite frankly they are naive and closed minded. have a look around at how each family in your street varies from one to the next and have a think about how many people are in similar situations.
If i was you obviously i would seek legal advice but i dont think the CSA rules should change just because 'father; is deceased, if he has no income, he has no income! I would probably leave a nominal amount just to makeit clear they werent forgotten about. but why should he pay money to someone he has no relationship with. I wouldn't.

Graham_Devon

Well that's awkward.

SingleSue

plummie2003 wrote: »

"I have 5 children so can't work due to childcare costs, nor can i afford a car, and wouldnt be able to afford one through the motability scheme on the benefits i receive. Why do i get discriminated against? If i could afford a car, or to run one it certainly wouldn't be one suitable for my needs, 4 child seats, and 3 other seats. Who helps me with my costs, no one! instead i have to drag them round on public transport. Why can't disabled people use public transport like everybody else who can't provide an income for themself!?
Discrimination just SHOULDNT happen, negative OR positive. as far as i am concerned, this scheme is positive discrimination toward disabled people, as are many of the discounts they receive simply because they are disabled. Why should the disabled be entitled to something that many hard working, individuals cannot afford either.

Any by the way, for anyone who sits there and says 'well you shouldnt have had 5 children then' I was only ever pregnant three times, i had two children and then triplets, if circumstances were different, like my partner not leaving me, and had my third pregnancy been a single baby i would have been able to go back to work, afford childcare, and a car."

Disabled people often find public transport extremely difficult to use. It could be from something as simple as a non accessable bus to someone in a wheelchair, seats not being available for someone who uses crutches or even the sensory issues of being on a bus extremely upsetting and scary.

But, I will say again, not all disabled people receive high rate mobility which would enable them to use their award to pay towards a mobility vehicle, most disabled people will receive either the lower rate of mobility or the care component which does not enable them to have a vehicle on the scheme.

Also it has to be said, being disabled is not a barrier to working....plenty of people who receive DLA also are hard working and paying taxes.

For info - disabled (there I have finally admitted it!), but not claiming any disability benefits but also a parent (divorced) of three disabled children, only one of whom receives DLA (HRC, LRM) but no 'free' car.

stephief

Ha ha some people have no idea.

It doesnt matter what age the car is, or even if the disabled person chooses to have a motability car or not, the cost to the tax payer is exactly the same. The disabled person is simply exchanging part of their benefits, that they would get regardless, for a vehicle. Its not a free car.

The sad fact is many physically disabled people cannot use public transport. Often because of the disagraceful attitude of able bodied people who refuse to give up wheelchair bays etc on buses for a wheelchair user, especially mums with buggies. Being stranded at a bus stop for hours on end waiting for a wheelchair space to be free is no joke. Most disabled wheelchair bound people can not fold their wheelchair up like people with buggies can.

I dont see how the motability scheme is discrimination agaisnt non disabled people. You sound incredibly bitter, even jealous of disabled people. How sad.

Pimperne1

The disabled person is simply exchanging part of their benefits, that they would get regardless, for a vehicle. Its not a free car.

Ha ha, very amusing.